Discord Mafia - ne61-chat

Danger?! Icet!

imagine it was nge and code

This means you know it isnt the team

4:23 p.m.

!!

4:23 p.m.

Icet confirmed mafia

Ngekop

This means you know it isnt the team

4:23 p.m.

where does that come from

Danger?! Icet!

imagine it was nge and code

“Imagine it was”

Ngekop

“Imagine it was”

im uninformed so im imagining it

4:24 p.m.

No you arent

4:24 p.m.

Then you would be saying imagine it is

4:25 p.m.

true...

guses i haev tmi

4:26 p.m.

Danger?! Icet!

imagine it was nge and code

Imagine if it was icet and nge

Indeed

Code

Imagine if it was icet and nge

Now this is a valid statement

4:26 p.m.

Bc icet and i arent paired

I know

And have talked enough for code to see that

what are you going to do about it

4:27 p.m.

vote me?

Yes

4:27 p.m.

I am

I'm gonna make a bold play here and say nge town already

Ngekop

I am

exactly you already are

Code

I'm gonna make a bold play here and say nge town already

Nonononononono

4:27 p.m.

Let me live longer!

4:27 p.m.

Hi xiaysa

hello take good care of me

I will dw

Ngekop

Nonononononono

The secret is I'm mafia and this is how we get you out early

4:27 p.m.

/jk

good good

Xiaysa

hello take good care of me

I absolutely won't

Xiaysa

hello take good care of me

hi

Also why that name

4:27 p.m.

wat name

Danger?! Icet!

hi

hello

Xiaysa

because yes

whats wrong with it

it's a beautiful fantasy name

4:28 p.m.

exactly!

4:28 p.m.

nothing wrong with my ame

4:28 p.m.

name*

4:28 p.m.

what's up with your name nge?

other than the fact it's unpronounceable by man

not really, you just haven't asked how it's pronounced yet

I also don't plan to

4:29 p.m.

I prefer to live in ignorance

nice

i find ngekop unpronouncible

yeah now to pronounce that

Danger?! Icet!

whats wrong with it

It sounds similar

4:30 p.m.

Or kinda exactly

4:30 p.m.

To a word in german

not really

4:30 p.m.

that's in fact the wrong pronounciation

That means uh

tsk tsk

now does this mean nge xia arent paired

4:30 p.m.

Xiaysa

that's in fact the wrong pronounciation

Of your name?

i think nge can fake that

Ngekop

Of your name?

yes

Danger?! Icet!

now does this mean nge xia arent paired

No

Danger?! Icet!

i think nge can fake that

Yes

4:31 p.m.

Especially bc

4:31 p.m.

It isnt faked

4:31 p.m.

And it doesnt need to

4:31 p.m.

I can just save my comment for the game

Xiaysa

yes

Ic

4:31 p.m.

Good

glad you understand

Anyways uh

4:32 p.m.

So you are here bc of lune right?

4:32 p.m.

So you on osu?

yep

Fun

he kidnapped me after wanting me to play in a 7 dig tourney as a 6 dig

4:32 p.m.

so that's fun

Im ngl i have no clue about what did you just say

good

4:33 p.m.

be confused

Oh no

those who know are the cool ones

…

4:33 p.m.

Damn

4:33 p.m.

Not even 10 minutes in here and xiaysa already called me lame

Code

I'm gonna make a bold play here and say nge town already

Actually why

4:34 p.m.

I fr dont see anything AI on my opening

4:34 p.m.

It is the most standard thing

they have tmi on your alignment

4:34 p.m.

Suspicious

So do you!

but im cute so it doesnt count

facts

Xiaysa i found the team

4:36 p.m.

Icet and code

4:36 p.m.

Ez

oh but icet is cute

4:36 p.m.

i wanna trust icet

He is one of the cutest people in this server by far

4:36 p.m.

Rng be like that tho

Ngekop

Actually why

Vibes

hmm truee

Thats why I said it's a bold play

Code

Vibes

Elaborate

Literally nothing to elaborate on

4:38 p.m.

I just felt like making a stab

Fun

Idk why you're surprised

4:39 p.m.

I've been making early town comments the last several games

Who’s surprised

You

Yeah but not on me

4:40 p.m.

And not when i havent really done anything

4:40 p.m.

M2H

Not out loud no

whomst summoned me from my domain

HI

speak your name and perish

hello m2h

Again

M2H

whomst summoned me from my domain

Your partner fr

I said it was a bold play and I didn't say that for no reasob

(Not mafia partner tho :0)

i am not a mason

Code

I said it was a bold play and I didn't say that for no reasob

Ik

Better get used to it bc it's gonna start happening more often

and who dares to know my alignment

You

4:41 p.m.

(And your partner)

i have 6 partners my g

M2H

i have 6 partners my g

I am not one of them

M2H poly huh

dang that's a lot of partners

dont discount the rizzasaurus rex

4:42 p.m.

anyways

4:42 p.m.

this is how this is gonna go

M2H

dont discount the rizzasaurus rex

who ironically has the worst rizz in the dinosaur kingdom

masons do not claim

M2H

masons do not claim

Why not

M2H

masons do not claim

absolutely do not claim, as spoken by the person who claimed their first game

Code

absolutely do not claim, as spoken by the person who claimed their first game

Oh wait we lost that game

nge will shit on you

Ngekop

Oh wait we lost that game

hey remember that ne game nge lost

Code

nge will shit on you

Not for claiming tho

I mean you did for me

until d2

We lost bc y’all voted obv towns d2 and d3

my plan involves the mafia killing one non-mason

4:43 p.m.

at that point

As a then new player I will not take responsibility for that

masons claim + me + one tr wins

I complained about the hammer d2 on a clear townie instead of on robyn

yeah but you also complained about my claim

M2H

masons claim + me + one tr wins

So masons out d2

i am always obvtown so its a lock if masons wait until d2

I dont like that either

4:44 p.m.

Masons dont out unless getting lynched

Ngekop

I dont like that either

Are you feeling what I'm feeling because I'm really feeling it

yo

hello there

Code

Are you feeling what I'm feeling because I'm really feeling it

I have nothing on M2H rn tbh

Ngekop

Masons dont out unless getting lynched

maybe thats optimal but a d2 out is fine unless the town is a clusterfuck

Hi fresh

Warning: im willingfully going to ignore every question and stay toxic

I need you to sr me

and im also assuming i will either die n1 or be very obv d2

you can shut up

Warning: I'm wilfully going to ignore fresh

i’m going to lead this game

Code

Warning: I'm wilfully going to ignore fresh

That is fair

DrFresh

i’m going to lead this game

Yeah no

4:46 p.m.

I dont trust you over myself sorry

nah Yes

you ain't my boss

I'd rather have nge lead and I don't even like it when he does

Ngekop

I dont trust you over myself sorry

you should cause i’m better

Xiaysa town^

m2h is locked town

so... no fresh

damn

Icet mafia^

i am obv towning quicker than usual LOL

Code

I'd rather have nge lead and I don't even like it when he does

that’s why i single handedly carried last game’s win

I've only played one game with icet but I'm just gonna straight say don't trust him

M2H

i am obv towning quicker than usual LOL

You arent

DrFresh

that’s why i single handedly carried last game’s win

who asked?

Ngekop

Icet mafia^

️

SINGLE HANDEDLY

Icet just has TMI fr

4:47 p.m.

Or is wrong

I think he's wrong

Code

who asked?

what happened to ignoring me

is that a lack of self control i see?

I'm not getting icet vibes

i mean id like to know why hes so confident on me

Code

I think he's wrong

i mean he's not wrong

And I'm the one who found icet last game

Having M2H without having Cs or Gc feels weird

4:48 p.m.

I like what they said

Danger?! Icet!

TMI

Ngekop

Having M2H without having Cs or Gc feels weird

I mean tbh babygirl you are the one that asked for this

@Ngekop wanna play with me? im going to be unable to chaotic as my dickhead playstyle gives people valid reasons to ignore me

DrFresh

@Ngekop wanna play with me? im going to be unable to chaotic as my dickhead playstyle gives people valid reasons to ignore me

Sure but im not letting you lead me

Ngekop

TMI

i have tmi with your mother

@Danger?! Icet! interesting vote

4:49 p.m.

now you must die

smile

Code omgusing? Interesting

imma just let mafia do their thing

watch out folks

Not new but not common either

Ngekop

Code omgusing? Interesting

?

4:49 p.m.

wdym

Icet has a jester on their account.

Code

now you must die

^

I still don't understand omgus in context so idk what tf you just said

4:49 p.m.

Ik what it means but not how to use it

M2H

Icet has a jester on their account.

4:50 p.m.

if you mean cute and lovable than yes im a jester

Well let’s say xiaysa votes me rn

@Ngekop imma go play fifa, i better come back to loads of questions from you and pressure

I said xiaysa town before

when you click on the picture, a pink jester role is there

But bc of her voting me

4:50 p.m.

Idgaf

4:50 p.m.

I vote her back

4:50 p.m.

And can even push her or smth

M2H

when you click on the picture, a pink jester role is there

That is omgus

oh like revenge vote

4:50 p.m.

I mean nah

Going after someone just bc they voted you

Bc I never actually voted icet

i am gonna just exist in the thread

And me voting him right after i cleared him would be dumb

until everybody agrees that i am town

4:51 p.m.

but am too harmless and stoopid to kill

4:51 p.m.

and then i will win d2

I brought it up because I wanted icet to elaborate

gg mafia

Code

I brought it up because I wanted icet to elaborate

i like their chats

4:51 p.m.

Im hungry

Danger?! Icet!

i like their chats

whose

4:51 p.m.

mine?

Ngekop

Im hungry

go catch some wolves

Code

whose

m2h

so you're voting me bc I'm voting m2h?

Mechanical talk is NAI

ya

Is that what I'm hearing

4:52 p.m.

alright

Ngekop

Mechanical talk is NAI

nuh uh i love setup spec

Ngekop

Mechanical talk is NAI

i mean yeah, but maybe some other stuff I said is LOL

I do that as maf more than as town

4:52 p.m.

Speaking of which

tbf people on my home site used to snapread me town just by entering the thread

i agree just mechanical is NAI but m2h was super confident AnimeThumbsup

Masons never claim unless getting lynched

4:53 p.m.

Imagine mafia is dumb

Ngekop

Masons never claim unless getting lynched

Masons please listen to nge and not m2h

thats me

And we get into F3

4:53 p.m.

With both masons alive

and then i had to show them my scumgame devil

Like wtf!!!!

thats what im gonna do

Autowin

Nge I get that but at the same time

4:53 p.m.

we outed vig last game at f7

4:53 p.m.

just for convenience

Just bc mafia sucks at finding masons and town didnt suck enough to lynch 3 townies b2b2b

M2H

we outed vig last game at f7

Not really

4:54 p.m.

We asked tide to claim

4:54 p.m.

And eaves to claim

4:54 p.m.

Bc they were getting lynched

4:54 p.m.

That is different

i like the prospect of autolock with masons, me + 1 at f7

4:54 p.m.

thats all really

4:54 p.m.

not optimal but very convenient

Yeah

4:54 p.m.

No

and puts a ton of pressure on the mafia tbh

Why

4:55 p.m.

Idgi

because assuming we misvote d1

Masons shouldnt out unless getting lynched ;-;

having that town core d2 puts the impetus on the mafia to try to mole

Yeah like

4:55 p.m.

No

4:55 p.m.

It is pointless

See if you can both survive

yeah thats mechanically true, but psychologically true maybe not.

F5 MAYBE

4:56 p.m.

But F7 no

M2H

yeah thats mechanically true, but psychologically true maybe not.

Yeah but that only from a cit pov

we already have a town core

4:56 p.m.

goodbye

And im on dealing with it

4:57 p.m.

Ok*

4:57 p.m.

As both pov’s

nge did fresh do the same with you in cod

Idk what are you talking about

the like

4:57 p.m.

thing

4:57 p.m.

where they pinged you

4:58 p.m.

and then said something

Probably

4:58 p.m.

Idk

4:58 p.m.

All i remember is he was all over me since mid-d2

DrFresh

@Ngekop wanna play with me? im going to be unable to chaotic as my dickhead playstyle gives people valid reasons to ignore me

here

is that sus to you icet?

4:58 p.m.

DrFresh

is that sus to you icet?

Suspicious

DrFresh

Oh no these eyes

not rlly it just didnt match my profile oh you lol

Danger?! Icet!

not rlly it just didnt match my profile oh you lol

im calculated asf

Im hungry and have work to do

4:59 p.m.

;-;

Ngekop

Yeah but that only from a cit pov

i think the better shot is always to use the masons for a free town core at f7 to put enormous psychological pressure on the mafia. you would rather hope that the masons don't get shot at at all and get brought to endgame. your option is probably correct from a pure mech standpoint but im confident we shut the game down d2 even if we misvote d1 with my approach. I'm very confident I'll be both obvious town AND have at least one solid read by d2. That plus masons wins.

4:59 p.m.

and if we get a wolf d1, that is even more compounding

5:00 p.m.

a wolf d1 means me + masons wins d2.

DrFresh

im calculated asf

Hapi

M2H

i think the better shot is always to use the masons for a free town core at f7 to put enormous psychological pressure on the mafia. you would rather hope that the masons don't get shot at at all and get brought to endgame. your option is probably correct from a pure mech standpoint but im confident we shut the game down d2 even if we misvote d1 with my approach. I'm very confident I'll be both obvious town AND have at least one solid read by d2. That plus masons wins.

I mean

i dont even need a read

You can do a town core without the masons

5:00 p.m.

And it sucks when the masons were already in the town core

yeah but in this pl who is my easy read gonna be tbh

5:00 p.m.

maybe code

5:00 p.m.

probably not you tbh

Im down to have the bottom two sr’s claim mid-d2

im easy im polarized

unless you wanna vote a wolf d1 again

5:01 p.m.

trust

M2H

unless you wanna vote a wolf d1 again

Well i mean

5:01 p.m.

I want to yes

i mean if you vote a wolf d1

5:01 p.m.

you can be in my town core

5:02 p.m.

we have cocaine, hookers, and a masons d2 claim

thats me

Danger?! Icet!

thats me

the hookers?

Ok legit take icet is mafia

Ngekop

Ok legit take icet is mafia

ok legit take nge hasnt found me once as mafia in DM

Danger?! Icet!

ok legit take nge hasnt found me once as mafia in DM

I have

5:04 p.m.

Just not d1

5:04 p.m.

It is different

which

Danger?! Icet!

which

Main game

i mean

Uh

icet isnt great

When code vigged you n1

im down to vote them tbh

I had you as maf n1

you expressed you as TRing me during the day

5:05 p.m.

Hapi

5:05 p.m.

doesnt ocunt

1. No i didnt

5:05 p.m.

I said i didnt want you voted

same thing

Bc you could be town

5:05 p.m.

And be an easy read

5:05 p.m.

No not same thing

5:05 p.m.

Not even close

nuh uh

2. N1 i did sr you and bb

but N1 is when i died

5:06 p.m.

Jarn i wouldve never thought tho

Danger?! Icet!

but N1 is when i died

Well

5:06 p.m.

You died eon1

5:06 p.m.

I sr’d you mid-n1

but does it really count

5:06 p.m.

Idc if you dont count it but it is what happened

Yeah I aint reading all dat

5:06 p.m.

Hi

Danger?! Icet!

but does it really count

Ask the host

5:06 p.m.

I said in my player chat

5:06 p.m.

Hi kazuma

nuh uh ill live in my ignorance bliss AngelPray

Ok

5:07 p.m.

You still mafia rn

5:07 p.m.

Too bad tho

womp womp

I die tn

5:07 p.m.

:(

idk i dont control that

You do

5:07 p.m.

Unless i get you lynched

i dont

uhm (Kazuma)

Hi

helloo

In which case you control it even harder

if im lynched i tell my partner to kill my mason read

wut

Danger?! Icet!

if im lynched i tell my partner to kill my mason read

No you tell him to kill the obv town

is Ngekop actually a day cop... or kop if thats how he wants to spell it?

If i get you lynched d1 im as good as a mason

Ngekop

No you tell him to kill the obv town

no i kill the PR read

5:09 p.m.

what

M2H

is Ngekop actually a day cop... or kop if thats how he wants to spell it?

Wdym

i mean

Danger?! Icet!

no i kill the PR read

Well

well

icet is getting worse imo

Then yw for the advice

it depends who youd think my pratner is

Dont do that

your name ie Nge-kop or cop

I can even be mason for all you know

its a joke

So if you kill me

lol

You can get a good mason out

but

And worst case scenario

i dont kill people

You get a good cit out

5:10 p.m.

That was obv town either way

but i dont kill

Let’s say the masons are xiaysa and ziel

5:10 p.m.

No offense but if i lynch mafia d1

5:11 p.m.

I think im p much as cleared as them

i want you to lynch mafia d1

And i have more influence

Than thise two together

5:11 p.m.

Those

fair

5:11 p.m.

but it doesnt have anything to do with me

But it does

no it doesnt

Your argument is every time you are maf i dont find you

5:11 p.m.

Sure

(Not really but sure let’s go with that)

5:12 p.m.

However i do find you as town

why

Wdym why

5:12 p.m.

When havent i

5:12 p.m.

If you are town i find you

i thought you were calling me sdudently town

Oh

5:13 p.m.

Nah you’re maf

nuh uh

But im saying

5:13 p.m.

When you are town

5:13 p.m.

I do find you

not finding me rn

if this is maf we can still do me + nge + masons for the d2 lock

5:13 p.m.

thx for the easy win nge

I always die

5:14 p.m.

N1

5:14 p.m.

If icet is mafia

yeah but

but what if im not

I literally just convinced him to kill me

d1 maf kill means

5:14 p.m.

town core of three is good

Danger?! Icet!

but what if im not

Then at least i live and i apologize to you postgame

yea?

But that wont happen

Ngekop

Then at least i live and i apologize to you postgame

but id ont want to go to postgame

M2H

town core of three is good

What if i die and im mason

5:14 p.m.

Your town core is just 2

Ngekop

What if i die and im mason

then I have to actually try :[

Danger?! Icet!

but id ont want to go to postgame

Blame lune

but im a star player midgame

If up to me i would apologize to you as soon as you die and flip town in dm

so we still win

5:15 p.m.

in that scenario i would employ

5:15 p.m.

15% of my power

Ngekop

If up to me i would apologize to you as soon as you die and flip town in dm

5:15 p.m.

i dont want to die

Sorry

5:16 p.m.

Im ngl i didnt find you at first

5:16 p.m.

But rn you are like

5:16 p.m.

Not town

5:16 p.m.

Like you just are not

sparkleStare

And if not town you can only be scum ;-;

Ngekop

Like you just are not

i disagree

icet, good but random question, why are you cute?

icet since you town cored me on entry i must ask

i have an arsenal of dogwowee images to draw my power from

5:17 p.m.

Xiaysa

icet, good but random question, why are you cute?

Wat

would you like to join my MPM program?

i see i see

what does that mean

Most Preferred Mafiasco

@Danger?! Icet! let’s make a deal

5:18 p.m.

I let you live today

for the most cutesy wutesy mafia member to ever be in ne61

em_smile

But tn you cant kill me or my tr (who will be announced later in day)

i hope i die d1 now

Why

Ngekop

Why

woweegun

Ngekop

Wat

gotta ask those important questions too you know

Hm

ykw

5:20 p.m.

if im mafia

5:20 p.m.

i make actual logical arguments or try to at least on why im town here

5:20 p.m.

and im polarized so

5:20 p.m.

Ngekop

But tn you cant kill me or my tr (who will be announced later in day)

who is your town read and why are they me?

Danger?! Icet!

i make actual logical arguments or try to at least on why im town here

If you are town tho

5:21 p.m.

You just make yourself

5:21 p.m.

Obv town

exactly

5:21 p.m.

so i just

And you keep not doing that

dont talk

So you uh

5:21 p.m.

Arent town

nononon

Danger?! Icet!

dont talk

No tbat

ur wrong here

That

5:21 p.m.

Isnt how it works

5:22 p.m.

You become clearly town

that is how it works

5:22 p.m.

when im mafia

5:22 p.m.

my goal is to not dissapoint my partner you see

5:22 p.m.

therefore

5:22 p.m.

i try to live

5:22 p.m.

right

5:22 p.m.

however

5:22 p.m.

if

5:22 p.m.

you look very carefully at the messages

5:22 p.m.

they are just

5:22 p.m.

im not mafia

5:22 p.m.

im town

5:22 p.m.

ur wrong

5:22 p.m.

therefore

5:22 p.m.

there is a deep constrast

5:23 p.m.

in which depicts me as an innocent child

As town you care tho

Ngekop

As town you care tho

5:23 p.m.

ofc i care but like

5:23 p.m.

not as in depth

You would be probs more annoyed and less defeatist

Ngekop

You would be probs more annoyed and less defeatist

5:24 p.m.

no

Your reaction to me calling you maf

im toxic when im mafia

Was a stat of why im probs wrong

mhm

Not a surprise given i rarely sr you when you are town

mhm

That isnt

5:24 p.m.

What it should be

5:25 p.m.

That’s the thing

itConfused

5:25 p.m.

then what should it be

5:25 p.m.

You’re all dumb DUMB DUMB

5:25 p.m.

Seriously not even one of you deserve to play

5:26 p.m.

5:26 p.m.

he dipped

5:26 p.m.

https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9_Flute

Sorry

5:27 p.m.

Im back

5:27 p.m.

Uh

5:28 p.m.

I’ll leave you alone for now ig

5:28 p.m.

Need to get back to work and eat smth soon

5:28 p.m.

bai bai

Danger?! Icet!

i make actual logical arguments or try to at least on why im town here

no, no you don't

5:30 p.m.

or not as much as this suggests at least

Danger?! Icet!

Seriously not even one of you deserve to play

I'm the only one here not sring you what about me

5:31 p.m.

Serious talk though @Ngekop pls explain why icet mafia

5:32 p.m.

Because I'm realling not feeling it

Code

Because I'm realling not feeling it

why do you tr me

6:56 p.m.

going sleep and my vote for today till tomorrow is going to be and stay on @Xiaysa

7:16 p.m.

good night

7:16 p.m.

got work

Interesting choice, may I ask why me? mEhh

Code

Serious talk though @Ngekop pls explain why icet mafia

His response to my sr

8:39 p.m.

Wouldve been

8:39 p.m.

Waaaaay better as town

8:39 p.m.

He is mafia

i will sheep ngekop for now, as that is the best way to conserve vital cognitive resources

What if im maf controlling this

Ngekop

What if im maf controlling this

then seeing how this flips gives me vital info on your alignment.

9:31 p.m.

and tbf i think

9:31 p.m.

being this overt is not really a good strat

9:31 p.m.

unless you are doing it with a partner too

9:31 p.m.

(which would be me in this case)

9:33 p.m.

and tbh you or code being scum in this player list

9:33 p.m.

is gonna bone me anyways

9:34 p.m.

because i either don't know or doubt i can read anybody else in the player list

I dont want to die n1

11:04 p.m.

:(

11:05 p.m.

The thing is mafia can bus

11:05 p.m.

Bc

11:05 p.m.

I die tn

11:05 p.m.

Then both masons die

11:05 p.m.

So this doesnt clear m2h

11:05 p.m.

Js

I mean

11:06 p.m.

never said it did

11:06 p.m.

I feel like you might be being just a little

11:06 p.m.

dramatic about this

11:06 p.m.

is Icet really like

11:07 p.m.

that on lock for you?

11:07 p.m.

I thought this was just a like slight scum lean for you

11:08 p.m.

and I thought it would be cool to 1. force maf to shoot you / 2. have you be cleared for the bus

11:08 p.m.

and tbh i dont have a good read of my own

11:09 p.m.

code feels ok/nullish xiaysa nullish, fresh meh? prob the other vote im looking at fwiw

11:09 p.m.

nge is ok outside of seeming

11:09 p.m.

maybe a little overdramatic about this push?

11:10 p.m.

if this is scum, nge is pretty much lock town yeah

11:10 p.m.

if its town im more like

11:10 p.m.

null / slean on him tbh

11:11 p.m.

if this flips s and maf DON'T shoot Nge or me and don't get lucky and hit a mason, imo its ogre

11:11 p.m.

lots of ifs but yeah

M2H

that on lock for you?

Yes

Ok then yeah ill sheep you

11:20 p.m.

and if its s, you'll be lock for me

11:20 p.m.

and we have masons

11:20 p.m.

so GG

icet you wanna out the partner

11:28 p.m.

we could always vote them first

Idk my partners

Icet i promise you if you dont kill me tn i wont lynch you d1 or d2

I can't kill so....

11:29 p.m.

I actually think code has tmi on my alignment

code does seem a little

11:30 p.m.

hesitant to vote you yeah

11:30 p.m.

so if you are town that could be a play

11:31 p.m.

and code is also voting me

11:31 p.m.

could be a fun repeat of last game except in reverse

11:31 p.m.

or maybe just a repeat of last game?

11:31 p.m.

idk3

look i have a small brain

11:33 p.m.

and limited brain power thingees

11:33 p.m.

so i need to just let other people do my d1 thinking for me so i can carry later

11:33 p.m.

its all a part of the plan clueless

11:34 p.m.

Idk how nge or code reads me I know how Luka reads me

how is that?

11:35 p.m.

Why would I say

11:35 p.m.

I have 0 scum wins already I need to get those numbers up

Danger?! Icet!

Idk how nge or code reads me I know how Luka reads me

i mean at this rate i think yeah you have just given up

Danger?! Icet!

I have 0 scum wins already I need to get those numbers up

Wait fr?

my scum game is beyond trash and i have a 60% win rate somehow

M2H

i mean at this rate i think yeah you have just given up

11:38 p.m.

What-

somehow my town game is also trash but i have a 80% win rate

Danger?! Icet!

i mean you're talking about not knowing how somebody can read you well when they are the one pushing you

11:39 p.m.

its kind of a

11:39 p.m.

slip to some degree imo

11:40 p.m.

Where slip

11:40 p.m.

Idk why nge thinks I'm wolfy

Danger?! Icet!

I have 0 scum wins already I need to get those numbers up

this is also a slip

Where slip

11:40 p.m.

0 SCUM WINS BABY

if you told me how people read you

Idk how people read me

that would help me see you as town if you are town yeah?

Lukas way of reading me if stupid

Hi guys

2:09 a.m.

Claiming citizen cause I really am

2:09 a.m.

4th game I think

Danger?! Icet!

why do you tr me

I didn't say I tr you

3:20 a.m.

I said I don't sr you

M2H

then seeing how this flips gives me vital info on your alignment.

I'm like 65% confident it flips town tbh

M2H

code does seem a little

Because I've played AND FOUND Icet scum before

3:31 a.m.

And I genuinely am not seeing the same tells

3:31 a.m.

I'm not gonna vote him just to sheep someone else

Danger?! Icet!

I actually think code has tmi on my alignment

Read the message I just sent, and tell me you're playing the same was as you did that game. Because you're not.

M2H

i mean at this rate i think yeah you have just given up

This is not an s!icet move

Code

I'm not gonna vote him just to sheep someone else

tbh im not sure what to do here given that you and nge both claim good reads on icet and tbh i have a light slean on Icet at this point individually. a lot of the slip stuff was just meming

3:43 a.m.

at the same time, tbh sheeping is usually good play from me -- i usually have solid - great midgame and late game reads, but not so good early.

3:44 a.m.

so if you and Nge can read Icet, I say hash it out

Code

I'm like 65% confident it flips town tbh

its also the case that 65% t is above random scum at this point (78% t is random).

3:44 a.m.

but ig what you're saying

M2H

so if you and Nge can read Icet, I say hash it out

I have no interest in fighting nge because it's a waste of energy. When he's set on a read be never lets anyone else get a look in and that just pisses me off

3:47 a.m.

If he wants to lynch Icet he can but I won't take part

M2H

tbh im not sure what to do here given that you and nge both claim good reads on icet and tbh i have a light slean on Icet at this point individually. a lot of the slip stuff was just meming

I'm not gonna stop you sheeping him. I just don't personally like sheeping other players and especially not ones I don't believe in

3:48 a.m.

Every time I've done it, it's backfired.

I just don't see the harm in it, when I don't have any super strong read myself

M2H

its also the case that 65% t is above random scum at this point (78% t is random).

My point here is just that I have higher confidence of a town flip than a scum flip but not enough to full town read

3:49 a.m.

Town read for me is 85-90%

like who else you voting here really?

M2H

like who else you voting here really?

Me? Or anyone?

3:49 a.m.

Because I'm down for a Fresh or Xiasya vote

3:49 a.m.

I have reasons to hesitate on you but I know you don't die today

3:49 a.m.

Hell I'm also down to pressure eaves

I'd be good with a Fresh vote later in the day if he keeps up this trajectory

3:50 a.m.

but imo a Icet wagon is fine for now

3:50 a.m.

I have a feeling they will spew one way or the other long before eod

I think the three I named are most likely atm to flip scum

3:51 a.m.

I also don't really like Ziel's entry but not enough to sus her

3:51 a.m.

But again, I'm not gonna stop the wagon, I'm just not gonna jump on it

Xiaysa

Interesting choice, may I ask why me? mEhh

i do believe you should be voted, as per why i rather not explain

So a wild bet since I'm new, possibly drink

4:59 a.m.

Well I don't blame you, even if this is my first game you never know

bet? oh no no no i’m not that type of player

4:59 a.m.

im calculated

Then I'm quite curious about why you'd rather not explain

@Xiaysa if you we’re outside in the rain and u had no where to stay would you find shelter or just stay in the rain?

Xiaysa

Then I'm quite curious about why you'd rather not explain

cause i never do

5:01 a.m.

players in this lobby know that fact

DrFresh

@Xiaysa if you we’re outside in the rain and u had no where to stay would you find shelter or just stay in the rain?

hmm would depend a bit on the downpour but i'd prolly just stay in the rain, it doesn't scare me

nah i agree with xiaysa

5:03 a.m.

explain mr. clean

5:03 a.m.

or dr. cool or whatever you are called

DrFresh

cause i never do

but if you never explain your reasoning, then i don't see any reason why i can trust you

5:04 a.m.

same goes for others i'd believe

5:04 a.m.

tho ofc i don't know anyone in this lobby here too well yet, so i can't say much for sure

5:05 a.m.

user xiaysa

hello

what are your reads

honestly as of now, no clue as i'm mainly confused by what exactly to look for fubukigrin

5:09 a.m.

but i dunno if i wanna trust this dr

well

but i do find people hard to read here

the main thing in this game is

5:10 a.m.

the uninformed majority vs the informed minority

5:10 a.m.

so you can try to read who seems to know too much (tmi)

5:10 a.m.

its very hard to fake coherent thought processes

that's true

usually my scum reads are for people putting form worldviews that don't seem consistent

5:11 a.m.

you could also consider motivation

5:11 a.m.

i.e., who seems to be acting in a way that helps the town solve the game

5:12 a.m.

not sure if you wanted that or if i was just explaining something you already knew

5:12 a.m.

but meh

oh no worries, it's still helpful thank you angelpray

5:13 a.m.

helps confirm what i was thinking of

5:14 a.m.

i'll reread the chat and see if i get any ideas

Xiaysa

So a wild bet since I'm new, possibly drink

Fresh never explains anything unless it benefits him so don't bother

noted

@Xiaysa @M2H Are we ready to wagon fresh now

i suppose

Code

@Xiaysa @M2H Are we ready to wagon fresh now

like i said i think icet is fine for rn

5:31 a.m.

and fresh has like

5:31 a.m.

imo a good shot of being scum

5:32 a.m.

and a low chance of improving his situation with his attitude on explaining reads?

even if he always acts like that, just makes himself more sus overall

but ima wait and see if he actually responds with anything of substance

M2H

imo a good shot of being scum

Then I don't understand why you don't want to pressure him noe

5:33 a.m.

now

5:33 a.m.

What benefit does wagoning icet have over wagoning fresh?

ill FoS him pending his response on that

5:33 a.m.

me being off wagon is imo actually more pressuring than a vote

idk what fos is

because icet is muccch more likely to say something spewing

5:34 a.m.

i have a really good track record at reading spew around eod

5:34 a.m.

so im thinking ill wait and see on that and either stay on it or switch around eod

5:35 a.m.

but my vote could def go on fresh if he has a trash response

5:35 a.m.

@DrFresh im watching you

Code

idk what fos is

^

Code

idk what fos is

and Finger of Suspicion, a prelude to a vote.

ty

5:36 a.m.

Also since we're talking about track records though

5:36 a.m.

My d1 maf find is pretty high

5:36 a.m.

and with me finding icet last time

5:36 a.m.

I did it within his first 5 messages

5:37 a.m.

I genuinely do not think icet flips scum here

I mean

5:37 a.m.

Nge is saying Icet 100% scum

5:38 a.m.

its hard for me to not wanna flip that after he d1ed pixel last game.

Nge also didn't find icet in his last game though

and I think Icet having a strong town read on me on entry is kinda weird

He says he found him overnight but that's unfalsifyablr

and some of the reponse stuff wasn't great, arguably slippy at times. (edited)

He didn't want to lynch icet because he was an "easy read" (he also didn't want to lynch the other mafia until he lost his wagon on Kiri) yet he does now

5:39 a.m.

What I'm saying is nge can be wrong

5:40 a.m.

My track on icet is better than his

Code

He didn't want to lynch icet because he was an "easy read" (he also didn't want to lynch the other mafia until he lost his wagon on Kiri) yet he does now

^ he was arguing against my two votes the entire of day one and both of those votes were on mafia

I get that Nge can be wrong yeah.

5:41 a.m.

Is it true though that Icet is genuinely an easy read?

I've only played 2 games with him so idk, but in my experience so far I've been confident both times

5:42 a.m.

Nge didn't want to lynch icet because apparently icet would give information but again we only really have his word he sussed icet at all

5:42 a.m.

Whereas mine was evident throughout the entire day

5:42 a.m.

And the fact I vigged him

5:43 a.m.

shot him I mean

5:43 a.m.

He was never going to get voted out

5:43 a.m.

Imo the easiest read in this server is eaves

5:43 a.m.

*in this chat. but also server yeah

I think there were two little things that Icet did that seemed genuine perspective slippy to me

5:44 a.m.

in the same vein as CSYager last game, though not to the same degree

can you link?

Danger?! Icet!

Idk how nge or code reads me I know how Luka reads me

commenting on how good nge reads them in the context of nge scum reading them

Danger?! Icet!

I have 0 scum wins already I need to get those numbers up

not outing meta to help their scum game here

M2H

commenting on how good nge reads them in the context of nge scum reading them

To be honest I read this post like "I don't know the method they use to read me" rather than crediting the reads themselves. Why would icet mention both of us when I have the opposite read to nge?

5:47 a.m.

And why would he mention Luka if it was crediting the reads

5:47 a.m.

When Luka isn't in this game

the former is somewhat of a perspective slip because IMO, if you are getting misread by somebody your first instinct isn't to point them out as somebody with a particularly good read on them. Unless you are following that up with a vote on them: i.e., "Your read is too good on me for you to get me this wrong"

Code

To be honest I read this post like "I don't know the method they use to read me" rather than crediting the reads themselves. Why would icet mention both of us when I have the opposite read to nge?

yeah I agree its in terms of methods, but I think saying "how they read me" implies that they can read them

That also doesn't make sense in context because if it implies we CAN read him... we both still have opposite reads

I wouldn't use that sentence to describe somebody that can't read me.

We both mechanically CANNOT read him if that is the case

Code

That also doesn't make sense in context because if it implies we CAN read him... we both still have opposite reads

this is fair

5:50 a.m.

I was never purporting these to be

5:50 a.m.

ironclad slips

I think that one is just genuinely a misunderstanding on your part

M2H

not outing meta to help their scum game here

wdym by notnputing meta?

5:50 a.m.

not outing*

I asked them how Luka reads them and they responded with that.

5:51 a.m.

Which, why would outing meta/how people read you hurt your chances of winning as scum unless you were scum in this game in particular

5:52 a.m.

At the very least, trying to protect your scum game is a pretty weird place to jump to when already discussing meta

I'll go back and read it in a bit

When I'm town idgaf about my scum game, so that just feels like a strange mindstate to be in.

Code

I'll go back and read it in a bit

I doubt we'll read it the same way tbh, just giving some of my personal reasoning.

5:53 a.m.

and sheeping Nge is a big part of it.

Code

That also doesn't make sense in context because if it implies we CAN read him... we both still have opposite reads

And you have opposite reads, but your read is by no means as polarized (likely town) as Nge's (certain scum). I take that in consideration when thinking about the first one as a slip.

5:58 a.m.

I still think the appropriate town!Icet attitude if Nge read them confidently incorrectly would be "Nge can't read me, and idk how Code reads me."

5:58 a.m.

I agree its about methods though yeah

Do you read other games or are you one of the people who refuses to

5:58 a.m.

Out of curiosity

I only read games where I'm an active participant

5:59 a.m.

unless I have a particular reason to

So me linking the s!icet game would be a waste of time then?

eh i'd skim it

#ma67-char

6:00 a.m.

chat

I might compare a bit more later

6:06 a.m.

some thoughts just looking at Icet:

6:06 a.m.

volume this game is MUCH higher than last game, although much of that is being an early target of discussion

6:08 a.m.

lots of emotes in common between the two: particularly, Confusedd

There's a bit somewhere where Kiri says Icet doesn't spam the dog as scum

6:09 a.m.

He's been spamming the dog this game

overall last game Icet, especially early game gave pretty confident takes and then walked them back

Danger?! Icet!

true...

Very early game Icet here seems similarly uncertain / awkward but their stuff later on seems a bit more relaxed. Thinking particularly around here where Icet comes off a bit awkward/uncertain.

6:13 a.m.

anyways its 5 am for me

6:13 a.m.

ill put in some more thought later on

Why are we lynching icet

uhm (Kazuma)

Why are we lynching icet

Hopefully we're not

6:14 a.m.

Nge thinks he's scum. I think he's town

I think fresh has not given much

6:18 a.m.

But I do think the bit saying "I'm calculated" and not wanting to explain reads

6:19 a.m.

Probably breaks towny as long as he actually gives some substance at some point soon.

You guys talk a lot when im not here wtf

Ngekop

You guys talk a lot when im not here wtf

Bc I showed up

Unless he's bad enough at scum that he genuinely can't string sentences together

Why are we voting fresh tho

Rather vote fresh than icet

It's not a natural response imo to say

6:20 a.m.

I'm calculated and just don't explain my reads

6:20 a.m.

It's actually a very confident thing to say

Code

Rather vote fresh than icet

Yeah no

6:21 a.m.

Why

M2H

I'm calculated and just don't explain my reads

Except that is literally how he behaves

6:21 a.m.

Every single time

6:22 a.m.

That isnt towny sure

6:22 a.m.

But that is just him so it isnt scummy either

Ziel (Nge's sis)

4th game I think

I dont believe this

Ngekop

That isnt towny sure

I'm saying it is slightly towny in a vacuum.

Code

I'm like 65% confident it flips town tbh

That is still better than random

Ngekop

Yeah no

You can't say no when that's literally my opinion

6:24 a.m.

I'm not voting icet, I'm just not

Code

This is not an s!icet move

How is it not, last game he didnt do anything

He didn't just give up though

6:24 a.m.

He actually put up an argument whereas this game he just doesn't seem to care

Code

I have no interest in fighting nge because it's a waste of energy. When he's set on a read be never lets anyone else get a look in and that just pisses me off

This is fake af tbh

It literally isn't, why do you think I haven't fought you like 5 games now

6:25 a.m.

Because it just gets on my nerves and its a waste of my energy

6:25 a.m.

You literally never let me or anyone else have our way unless you can't get yours

Code

Because I'm down for a Fresh or Xiasya vote

You realize they arent teamed

6:25 a.m.

Also why fresh over xiaysa then

Ngekop

You realize they arent teamed

Didn't say they are

Code

Hell I'm also down to pressure eaves

Eaves is playing true

M2H

I'd be good with a Fresh vote later in the day if he keeps up this trajectory

M2H not with fresh

M2H

but imo a Icet wagon is fine for now

Nvm

Code

But again, I'm not gonna stop the wagon, I'm just not gonna jump on it

I dont love this behavior ngl

M2H

explain mr. clean

Looool

Ngekop

I dont love this behavior ngl

OK and

6:28 a.m.

Like I said. Fighting you isn't worth my time

6:28 a.m.

And you're not gonna just roll over on icet so it isn't worth the effort to convince you

Code

Nge also didn't find icet in his last game though

Not d1 true but i always find him when he is town

Code

He says he found him overnight but that's unfalsifyablr

Ask lily

M2H

and some of the reponse stuff wasn't great, arguably slippy at times. (edited)

Dont edit

Code

He didn't want to lynch icet because he was an "easy read" (he also didn't want to lynch the other mafia until he lost his wagon on Kiri) yet he does now

So what

6:31 a.m.

Lol

6:31 a.m.

Vee did become scummier nearing eod and bb voting jar for no reason made it worse

Ngekop

Not d1 true but i always find him when he is town

This makes my d1 read more likely than yours

Code

My track on icet is better than his

100% with a sample size of 1 isnt better than one of like 80-90% with 10 games

Ngekop

Vee did become scummier nearing eod and bb voting jar for no reason made it worse

Ya but you also gave up because you couldn't get kiri and you stopped caring

6:32 a.m.

You even said as much

Code

^ he was arguing against my two votes the entire of day one and both of those votes were on mafia

You really are using one of my worst d1 as towns lately comparing it with your best one to make a point

Whatever, I'm not having this fight. I said my piece and nothing you can say will make me vote icet

6:32 a.m.

Bye

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

He was but ok

6:33 a.m.

Maybe after bb tho

6:33 a.m.

Bb was my strongest sr after eod1

6:33 a.m.

And that you can verify since i literally asked you to shoot bb

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

Not to mention first time i said icet mafia his reaction was to say i never found him as maf before instead of any surprise about me sr’ing him when he is town since i always find him d1

I think Code is probably town

6:37 a.m.

btw

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

Which argument

6:38 a.m.

All he said is he isnt mafia

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

We fight but not bc i dont let you do anything other than what i want

Code

This makes my d1 read more likely than yours

Not really

Tbh

It is the same thing but in fully opposite context

On a limb

Hot takes:

Ngekop

Not really

Stop tagging me I don't want to have this discussion

I think tc: me/code/nge

Fresh/xiaysa is tvt

6:40 a.m.

Icet/code/m2h isnt pure

6:40 a.m.

Who else exists?

6:40 a.m.

Ziel/eaves/…

6:40 a.m.

Who am i missing

6:40 a.m.

Uh…

Kaz

KAZUMA

Ziel/Eaves/M2h is not pure

YE

Code

Ziel/Eaves/M2h is not pure

This can easily be true

6:41 a.m.

Rn i would agree with that yes

Kazuma is probably pure

All he has said is “why are we lynching icet”

I am the purest

No you arent

I know but I also found Kaz within 5 messages in his scum game

vanilla bean

He was NE tho

on the face of the earth

He hasnt been factional scum yet

I found him though

6:42 a.m.

Doesn't make a difference to me

6:42 a.m.

I find him as town and I find him as not town

Factional isnt informed

Ben&Jerry's quality pure

Is*

6:42 a.m.

NE isnt

Not my point

6:42 a.m.

I can read Kaz and Kaz isn't scum

You can read everyone sure thing

Not everyone

Yet you are voting town

Some people are easier than others

Fs

I can for sure read eaves

6:43 a.m.

I can mostly read you

Lily is the easiest read on earth

I don't know if I can read m2h

How is also

6:43 a.m.

But only when he plays

Code

I don't know if I can read m2h

You def can't lol

You have to work on getting him to do stuff

M2H

You def can't lol

We will find out

Nge can't either fwiw

M2H

Nge can't either fwiw

I did last game

Until mid game

No

6:44 a.m.

I tl’d you all d1

And only with wagonomics

6:44 a.m.

After a flip yeah?

No

6:44 a.m.

I did before the flip even

6:45 a.m.

But since i was tl’ing many people

6:45 a.m.

D2 i had to rethink everyone

6:45 a.m.

I tr’d you yet again

6:45 a.m.

I never had you on anything lower than a tl lol

6:45 a.m.

If it helps here i do rn

Gotcha

6:46 a.m.

Not really sure why I'm worse this game to you but

6:46 a.m.

Ig we will see

Maybe

6:47 a.m.

Can we lynch icet now tho?

@M2H You were surprisingly confident sod about reading me despite reading me wrong last game

Ngekop

If it helps here i do rn

do what?

Code

@M2H You were surprisingly confident sod about reading me despite reading me wrong last game

I was right on you mid game last game.

Have m2h lower than tl

And never voted you

You wanted me scumread the whole game

Ngekop

Have m2h lower than tl

Oh yeah me too

6:48 a.m.

I despised his and ziel's entries

But fair

6:48 a.m.

Think I understand you better now.

M2H

Think I understand you better now.

Likewise

And I'm not good at reading less active / skilled players

Code

Ziel/Eaves/M2h is not pure

Ziel is town

Eaves is easy to read

Since I read heavy into

If she shows up she's town

6:49 a.m.

If she puts the minimal amount of effort in she's maf

uhm (Kazuma)

Ziel is town

This is dangerously TMI

6:49 a.m.

Why

motivation and optimal play

Kazuma might indeed be town we’ll see

6:50 a.m.

Fresh enjoys scum better than town

Ngekop

Can we lynch icet now tho?

Ice is also town

Kazuma why is Ziel town

Only way fresh is scum is

6:50 a.m.

He mason read xiaysa and wants her to claim

@Ngekop why is m2h non-tl

Code

Why

I’ve played lil 3 games either them. Def town

Code

@Ngekop why is m2h non-tl

Bc i have nothing to tl him for

Like

Ngekop

Bc i have nothing to tl him for

Hear me out

6:51 a.m.

I know you'll say no but

6:51 a.m.

What if we pressure m2h instead

6:51 a.m.

Lol

uhm (Kazuma)

I’ve played lil 3 games either them. Def town

*with

Code

What if we pressure m2h instead

M2H over fresh always yes

Holy smokes code

uhm (Kazuma)

I’ve played lil 3 games either them. Def town

Usually I can read Ziel but her entry was very euhh

you wanna mislynch me so bad

Code

Usually I can read Ziel but her entry was very euhh

Indeed

It's like your life goal

M2H

Holy smokes code

I know it's convenient after last game but Jesus christ I hated your entry so much

6:52 a.m.

Like I've never hated anything more in this game

6:52 a.m.

Than I hated your entry

Code

I know it's convenient after last game but Jesus christ I hated your entry so much

You mean mech spec?

No I mean how borderline arrogant you seemed

6:53 a.m.

And constant references to you being town

Townie ego, yes.

Code isnt wrong

6:53 a.m.

Sigh code might be town

It felt so wildly different from last game and also unearned

Can i play against scum!code already

Ngekop

Can i play against scum!code already

No thank you

6:54 a.m.

@Ngekop wdyt, pressure m2h now and push icet tomorrow

It gets boring bc i cant say if i read you well or not

Code

@Ngekop wdyt, pressure m2h now and push icet tomorrow

Maybe

I will vote icet if you pressure m2h with me

I dont want to change rn tho it’s 5am and im tired af

6:54 a.m.

I might when i wake up

Ok

@eaves hi

i didn't know this started

6:56 a.m.

WHY do i always miss ne start

6:56 a.m.

the force is not with me

eaves

i didn't know this started

hmm

Hi

6:58 a.m.

@eaves yw for helping you not get 2 prods in 9h

6:59 a.m.

Also her opening beated ziel’s for worst opening

6:59 a.m.

;-;

I agree actually

7:00 a.m.

I cannot immediately read her town

7:01 a.m.

I think eaves might be one of them

7:01 a.m.

Problem is she can be paired with Literally Anyone

7:01 a.m.

Maybe eaves over fresh tbh

7:01 a.m.

Fresh is just a dick

7:01 a.m.

That's p much it

Code

Fresh is just a dick

7:02 a.m.

well i know i'm not maf

7:02 a.m.

so

7:02 a.m.

But how do WE know you're not

you should just trust in me

If i agree with code on someone

7:02 a.m.

It has to be right

7:03 a.m.

Also eaves’s response isnt towny either

This really doesn't feel like towny eaves

7:04 a.m.

I've sussed eaves before and she never reaponds like that as town

Ikr

7:05 a.m.

i am not mafia AnimeThumbsup

eaves is mafia

you two voted me wtf

because you are mafia yes

i'm not taking you seriously lmao

ok then

What about me

guess you're just gonna have to die

Im voting you too

Code

guess you're just gonna have to die

Seems like it ye

7:07 a.m.

:(

This is actually horrific play from her

7:07 a.m.

Like genuinely

7:08 a.m.

She can do better responses as either alignment

Lol m2h silently joining

If eaves is mafia m2h is clear

M2h tr’s us both and is sheeping

Code

If eaves is mafia m2h is clear

Yeah

I'm laying in bed you weirdos

M2H

I'm laying in bed you weirdos

Hot

Code

Hot

In my pajamas you pervert

M2H

In my pajamas you pervert

You are not making this better lmao

7:10 a.m.

Nah I try to avoid making those kinda jokes in this server but sometimes the opportunity is too good

Me when my role was milkman and i went on lily

Code

You are not making this better lmao

They have a bunch of Pikachu's on them AngryScream

PIKA

Ngekop

Lol m2h silently joining

Also I don't tr you yet

7:12 a.m.

You have to pay your pound of flesh

You tc’d me and code

Oh true

I'm a dumbfuck

7:12 a.m.

Still

7:13 a.m.

Like pay the pound of flesh

7:13 a.m.

Or else

7:13 a.m.

so let's take stock

7:15 a.m.

eaves came in, said she isn't mafia, got angry about the vote, and then left

Yeah

7:16 a.m.

And Fresh said "I'm not gonna explain my reads, I'm built different"

7:16 a.m.

And Icet did a whole lot

so nge is obviously town core at this point

7:18 a.m.

icet, Eaves, you, ziel, and fresh are the people who have had sus on the.

Code

so nge is obviously town core at this point

Prolly but I'd rather see how early flips go first

7:19 a.m.

Kinda impulsive of me to tc him this soon

tbh even if he's wrong

7:19 a.m.

I don't think this is nge scumplay

Idk what his range is at all

he has fair range

7:19 a.m.

it takes me a few days to find him scum usually

I know I snapread him on his last scum game off CS's secondhand descriptions

7:20 a.m.

And got him solid last game on wagonomics

7:20 a.m.

But in terms of actually reading him not really

7:21 a.m.

I think the three of us are town tho yeah

7:21 a.m.

Gun to head I think Nge is less solid of the three

Code

so nge is obviously town core at this point

Yea im dead

7:22 a.m.

Maybe if i stop doing stuff they will let me live

7:22 a.m.

Bye guys

M2H

Idk what his range is at all

Wide

M2H

I know I snapread him on his last scum game off CS's secondhand descriptions

Well yeah but for people who know me it wasnt

7:23 a.m.

Bc that was the first time i did that as scum

Ngekop

Well yeah but for people who know me it wasnt

All I'm hearing from this is that I'm the GOAT

I'm hungry

Code

I'm hungry

This is a Wendy's

M2H

This is a Wendy's

Fuck wendy

7:28 a.m.

She put plastic in my fries last time

Code

She put plastic in my fries last time

Plastic. I'm your fries??? Huuhhh?

Yes

7:35 a.m.

That actually happened

we're all consuming microplastics anyways, so i'd assume maybe wendy's were just trying to speed up the process

Hi townies

hello townie

what happened to the wagon on me

(Xiaysa and fresh)

DrFresh

what happened to the wagon on me

I made it go

7:36 a.m.

Yw

Xiaysa

hello townie

Wait how do you know im town

who said i said hello townie to you

Ngekop

I made it go

u don’t even read me town, u just want to see me cook

dw after work is done

7:37 a.m.

imma get onto this game

DrFresh

u don’t even read me town, u just want to see me cook

I said fresh and xiaysa tvt

Ngekop

I said fresh and xiaysa tvt

i shall not comment

7:38 a.m.

who hasn’t spoken?

Ngekop

I made it go

Bit of an overstatement

7:38 a.m.

We both decided eaves was sus

7:38 a.m.

And voted her

i’ve been occasionally isolating players during work

DrFresh

who hasn’t spoken?

Everyone has

has kazuma spoken?

yes

Yes

Kaz and Eaves and Ziel have spoken the least

@Ngekop can we stack on ziel of icet ?

7:40 a.m.

or*

Im down for that but tomorrow

7:40 a.m.

Imma sleep now

7:40 a.m.

Gn

gngn

Ngekop

Im down for that but tomorrow

u know why right?

Not really

Ngekop

Not really

interesting ok

7:41 a.m.

after this or if i die early i’ll explain how my brain works early d1

7:42 a.m.

i have a constant thought process did i follow every day 1

7:42 a.m.

unless it’s a role game

7:42 a.m.

that^

Ngekop

Im down for that but tomorrow

-.-

7:42 a.m.

And here I thought we were making progress

Code

Fresh is just a dick

wtf i’m actually honestly very empathetic

7:46 a.m.

and kind

Can't tell if you're joking or not

7:47 a.m.

If you aren't then I haven't seen it

i’ve never been rude to someone

7:47 a.m.

like genuinely

I never said you had been (other than the time you called me dumb)

no but that was a compliment

It wasn't.

o

7:47 a.m.

sorry then

7:47 a.m.

i didn’t mean to hurt you

You didn't, it was just uncalled for

sorry for not calling out what i was going to say

DrFresh

sorry for not calling out what i was going to say

?

7:48 a.m.

Idk what this means

u said it was uncalled for

Oh

so im apologising for not calling out before calling u dumb

7:48 a.m.

it was a friendly type of “dumb0

7:49 a.m.

not a “ur fucking stupid” type of dumb

I was going to ask you what your reads are but ik you won't answer it so idk how to move away from this conversation

u will always know my reads at some point

Yeah but that doesn't help me now

during d1

7:49 a.m.

with 24 hours after day started

7:49 a.m.

within*

7:50 a.m.

i’ll say it

I'm bored and idk what to do

play osu

7:51 a.m.

.. well, that's just what i wanna do rn but i gotta finish this lab report for uni

I don't like osu

what do you like?

Minecraft atm

7:54 a.m.

But I'm not really feeling like it

hmm i see

Tbf I'm not really feeling like anything

7:54 a.m.

Which is the problem.

ahh that's a rough mood to have

Adhd moment

yep fr

Sometimes I just don't feel like doing anything until I'm doing something

i usually just try to nap then, but if i can't nap i'd just brainlessly play sudoku or picross or something

My sleep is fucked enough atm haha

oh same

7:55 a.m.

hope you'll find something to do tho!

7:56 a.m.

i just like playing games where i don't need to think much sometimes and just go on autopilot when i don't feel like doing anything

7:56 a.m.

sometimes listen to some random music while at it, hoping of it to eventually help me snap out of it

7:58 a.m.

Ty lol

7:59 a.m.

I might just go force myself to play for a bit

7:59 a.m.

If you wanna join

sadly i really gotta finish this lab report rn, since i won't have time to finish it tomorrow XD

8:00 a.m.

otherwise i would have

8:01 a.m.

but have fun!

Rip

Code

He's been spamming the dog this game

LMAO

you have though

8:11 a.m.

that's not why you're town but it helps LOL

Kiri says that's nai

8:15 a.m.

M2h/code/nge are town

again

8:16 a.m.

that's not

8:17 a.m.

why

8:17 a.m.

you're town

Ngekop

I dont believe this

WHY NOT.

8:34 a.m.

It's true though

8:34 a.m.

:3

8:35 a.m.

I'm citizen

8:35 a.m.

And I think it's my 4th or 5th game

Eval nge if game gets hard

8:38 a.m.

Or anyone in the 3 names actually

Danger?! Icet!

M2h/code/nge are town

I mean even if you're mafia you kind of have to say this

Ziel (Nge's sis)

It's true though

Can you say something OTHER than your alignment which may or may not be correct

8:54 a.m.

because you saying "i'm town" helps nobody

8:54 a.m.

ever

Code

I mean even if you're mafia you kind of have to say this

Probably

Danger?! Icet!

Probably

Vote eaves with us

9:01 a.m.

@Danger?! Icet! btw

9:01 a.m.

who are your sr's

None

9:03 a.m.

If you really want names Kaz/ziel/Eaves but I mainly want them to talk more

@Ngekop would you call it cap if i said i was confident on who both mafias are?

9:42 a.m.

tbh i just need to go over it a couple of times before give myself false conviction bias

@Xiaysa explain your vote

Hmm overall it's because of eaves' responses, i feel like it's sorta lacking and feel like i want to hear more from them + they're one of the 3 that have been speaking here the least so i'd like them to talk a bit more

10:10 a.m.

so i want to put some more pressure onto them

10:12 a.m.

or so i was thinking at least anyahide

Oh LOL

10:22 a.m.

I thought you'd voted ziel

10:22 a.m.

Mb

no worries xDD

DrFresh

@Ngekop would you call it cap if i said i was confident on who both mafias are?

Definitely not

I would also quite like to know

Danger?! Icet!

If you really want names Kaz/ziel/Eaves but I mainly want them to talk more

Hi

11:25 a.m.

Again

11:25 a.m.

Why eaves

Read her opening

11:27 a.m.

It's scummy as hell

I think I agree

11:29 a.m.

I also

11:29 a.m.

Need to escape

11:29 a.m.

Prods

11:29 a.m.

Me disappear after dis

11:29 a.m.

Busy man

11:30 a.m.

@Code tr?

tr what

11:30 a.m.

you?

11:30 a.m.

you haven't said anything I can tr yet

11:30 a.m.

just don't sr you

I mean like

11:30 a.m.

Your tea

11:30 a.m.

Yes

oh

11:30 a.m.

nge

11:30 a.m.

icet

Duck autocorrect

11:31 a.m.

sliiiiiiiightly m2h but barely

I refuse to believe you m2h and nge are town

m2h is most likely to flip scum

11:31 a.m.

but he doesn't get voted out today

11:31 a.m.

as much as I hated his opening

11:32 a.m.

when i say slight tr what i mean is he's less scummy than other people but still a bit scummy

@eaves you have 6 votes lmao

11:32 a.m.

Code

when i say slight tr what i mean is he's less scummy than other people but still a bit scummy

Who do you sus

11:33 a.m.

Apart from eaves

m2h a bit (lol)

Also bye

did sus fresh but not now

11:33 a.m.

uhhh

11:33 a.m.

ziel a bit

11:33 a.m.

who else is here

11:34 a.m.

xiasya a bit

11:34 a.m.

this may well be a ziel+eaves game

Code

sliiiiiiiightly m2h but barely

How is m2h third

that wasn't in order

11:34 a.m.

lol

Code

m2h a bit (lol)

But also here

Code

when i say slight tr what i mean is he's less scummy than other people but still a bit scummy

.

Code

as much as I hated his opening

i liked the opening

12:17 p.m.

i sus kaz

12:17 p.m.

Danger?! Icet!

i liked the opening

he was sooo arrogant though

12:18 p.m.

like it goes beyond overt confidence

thats why i thought it was towny

12:18 p.m.

very confident

I disagree

12:19 p.m.

he was also calling himself town

12:19 p.m.

like

12:19 p.m.

a lot

12:19 p.m.

none of which he did last game

idk about past games

it was either ne60 or ma68

12:21 p.m.

kaz is being a bit weird but I don't think in a scummy way

12:21 p.m.

it doesn't read that to me YET

12:21 p.m.

but I also can't tr him and usually I can

Code

he was also calling himself town

tbh I can link to forum games where I do the arrogant townie thing

I don't read forum games tbh

2:39 p.m.

I dislike forums strongly

Just because I think you're above rand town and it messes with my reads for people to sr me

Also my point isn't necessarily that you DON'T do it, it's that it goes against what I can meta of you

2:41 p.m.

In which case I would have two questions

2:41 p.m.

Why did you do it and why did you change?

2:41 p.m.

you started like super high but then flatlined after maybe 6 hours

Code

Why did you do it and why did you change?

Mostly just nervous on intros in general

2:44 p.m.

And I also like to do the memey arrogant town thing sometimes

2:44 p.m.

But then when I have stuff to solve it takes a backseat

2:45 p.m.

It's more of a "I'm kinda bored with the game and have nothing to say but still wanna say something" thing.

2:45 p.m.

Or a "game just started and idk how to start" thing.

What was the difference between this game start and last game start for you?

Code

What was the difference between this game start and last game start for you?

Last game I had more mech stuff I wanted to start with

2:48 p.m.

I thought the vig deal was important enough to say first off.

2:49 p.m.

Hear you notice as soon as I think through the mason situation I shift to mech spec on the masons

2:50 p.m.

And how a d2 claim + me + 1 tr wins

Fair enough

2:51 p.m.

So who do you sus

Probably my reads are like this

2:52 p.m.

m2h

2:52 p.m.

code

2:52 p.m.

nge

2:53 p.m.

fresh

2:53 p.m.

xiay

2:53 p.m.

ziel

2:54 p.m.

kaz

2:54 p.m.

icet

2:54 p.m.

eaves

do you genuinely sus icet or is it just info?

I think Icet said some slightly slippy things and what Nge said about the sr thing is true.

Because I'd probably have the same list except icet above/equal to fresh and kaz over ziel

M2H

I think Icet said some slightly slippy things and what Nge said about the sr thing is true.

I still haven't read that, I need to

I think we def vote Eaves first if disappearing is what they do as scum lol but yeah I could go back to Icet tomorrow.

Yeah she disappears but also her entry was awful

2:56 p.m.

She seemed genuinely angry and that isn't an eaves thing

2:56 p.m.

Not as town at least

Code

Because I'd probably have the same list except icet above/equal to fresh and kaz over ziel

You town core me harder than you

And I've sussed t!Eaves before

M2H

You town core me harder than you

Tbh I forgot you were on the list

2:57 p.m.

Help I'm about to eat dinner and there's a kitten on my lap

Code

Help I'm about to eat dinner and there's a kitten on my lap

I'm just gonna let you struggle with that

Lmao

Code

And I've sussed t!Eaves before

Thoughts on what she did say?

Code

Thoughts on what she did say?

Not really tbh. I can go back but my read is mostly the

2:58 p.m.

going AWOL and never coming back type read

2:59 p.m.

Eaves was def low activity last game but this is a

2:59 p.m.

definate step down

2:59 p.m.

It was kinda weird as soon as

2:59 p.m.

somebody said their name

2:59 p.m.

there they were

2:59 p.m.

Made me wonder whether they were lurking prior lol

3:00 p.m.

Which isn't really a behavior I understand from scum players tbh

3:00 p.m.

But from newer scum players sure

3:06 p.m.

But I mean

3:06 p.m.

Eaves last game pretty much

3:06 p.m.

Came in low posted, and then voted me in response to push yeah

3:07 p.m.

Here I'm not even seeing a vote from them.

3:08 p.m.

So I guess the difference from last game is last game they were mostly on defense but also provided another (bad) direction that the game could go.

3:08 p.m.

And here the response is just be defensive then leave.

we really trying to make reads on low effort posters

DrFresh

we really trying to make reads on low effort posters

My PhD in Christ, there are 5-6 low effort posters in this game

I have returned

M2H

My PhD in Christ, there are 5-6 low effort posters in this game

i know which is exactly why i don’t feel like playing

3:30 p.m.

why do i have to make reads on people that don’t even want to play the game

DrFresh

why do i have to make reads on people that don’t even want to play the game

be the change you wanna see in the game

3:33 p.m.

make Discord Mafia town STRONG!!!

uhm (Kazuma)

I have returned

for thousand of years i lay dormant

M2H

be the change you wanna see in the game

if they wanted to play they’d just come wouldn’t they?

DrFresh

if they wanted to play they’d just come wouldn’t they?

well, why dont you try to read me, code, and nge

M2H

well, why dont you try to read me, code, and nge

what do you think Nge’s alignment is?

3:37 p.m.

or code’s?

3:37 p.m.

/and!

DrFresh

what do you think Nge’s alignment is?

lol we're done here

M2H

for thousand of years i lay dormant

Who has disturbed my-

M2H

lol we're done here

huh?

uhm (Kazuma)

Who has disturbed my-

hey best buddy

DrFresh

huh?

k so you said you wont try because there are low effort people in the game, so i said try to read the high effort people then and you flipped it on me when i already have reads in the thread about nge and code

DrFresh

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3:41 p.m.

wake yo ass up mr clean

M2H

k so you said you wont try because there are low effort people in the game, so i said try to read the high effort people then and you flipped it on me when i already have reads in the thread about nge and code

well… it was a semi rhetorical question that would’ve lead to my opinion, if u feel annoyed that it flipped on u that’s ur problem

3:42 p.m.

i didn’t care about ur opinion

DrFresh

well… it was a semi rhetorical question that would’ve lead to my opinion, if u feel annoyed that it flipped on u that’s ur problem

but it falls apart when ive given reads on those people LOL

3:43 p.m.

you just can't be asked to even read them

i have made reads on them

3:43 p.m.

i don’t know if i’m allowed to show pics of my notes but i have notes

3:43 p.m.

i make notes every game

ok

3:44 p.m.

coolio

ok

ill just read your mind then

go ahead do it

3:44 p.m.

i’m speaking my mind because u annoyed me

3:44 p.m.

i’m not*

3:45 p.m.

tbh u can actually tell where i stand

3:45 p.m.

logically

DrFresh

tbh u can actually tell where i stand

nah i cant LOL

DrFresh

we really trying to make reads on low effort posters

…

DrFresh

…

you dont even need to read the low effort posters, assuming the masons are in their pile

3:48 p.m.

so just pick out 2-3 trs and we gucci

girl what do u think i’ve been doing

DrFresh

girl what do u think i’ve been doing

mr clean how am i supposed to read you when you arent giving any thoughts in the chat

3:50 p.m.

you are one of the lowposters they warned us about

i’m not a low poster

3:51 p.m.

as i’m indeed always here

DrFresh

i’m not a low poster

youve posted half as many times as icet

3:53 p.m.

and half of those are just now

that’s doesn’t mean anything

you:

3:54 p.m.

1. don't out read reasoning

i’m a high poster

2. have less posts than icet, another low poster

3:55 p.m.

so like

3:55 p.m.

idc that you are physically looking at the thread

3:55 p.m.

from my perspective you are another lowposter

3:55 p.m.

not as bad as eaves ziel or kaz but still

if you don't give out any reasonings then you're not much better than a low poster PaimonNom

3:57 p.m.

tho ofc, i don't contribute much yet either, i do admit that

if all you do is send fluff and talk nonsense ur as good as a low poster in my eyes

yeah never said i wasn't one

i’m actually deducing and making thoughts during this game whether i speak them or not

3:58 p.m.

i have my own playstyle and i’ve explained in multiple games why i play the way i do and it’s never failed me

Xiaysa

yeah never said i wasn't one

i don’t think i said u were one

DrFresh

that’s doesn’t mean anything

Yes it does tf

uhm (Kazuma)

Yes it does tf

just cause u post less doesn’t mean i’m inactive

4:00 p.m.

ik who in here has actually read the game and who hasn’t

DrFresh

just cause u post less doesn’t mean i’m inactive

“Low poster” literally means to post less

and don’t get me wrong i can ask questions give my thoughts and all that, but it’s not like my home community where ik people will just mindlessly follow me, i actually have to play the effective sheep and think

4:01 p.m.

i can’t lead with my attitude

4:01 p.m.

it’s impossible

but are you effective if you don't share reasoning PaimonNom

so i rather the way i am

DrFresh

and don’t get me wrong i can ask questions give my thoughts and all that, but it’s not like my home community where ik people will just mindlessly follow me, i actually have to play the effective sheep and think

And we are asking for your thoughts

Xiaysa

but are you effective if you don't share reasoning PaimonNom

oh trust me i am

uhm (Kazuma)

And we are asking for your thoughts

no

4:02 p.m.

i don’t want to give my thoughts

Why

why? cause i don’t want to

it's not a question if you want to or not tho

Being uncooperative doesn’t help yk

What logical reason is there to refuse

it does in my own world

but well, you do you ig shrug_weeb

no use arguing with someone who won't cooperate much

i will cooperate

4:03 p.m.

in my own way

4:03 p.m.

you don’t need my reads unless u trust it

up to you

each to their own right?

4:06 p.m.

@uhm (Kazuma) i’ve noticed early in the game u had made barely much reading and thought but u had some level of conviction biased to words icet being innocent, and considering Ngekop can read icet quite well you didn’t really question the fact that icet might actually be mafia

4:06 p.m.

what was that about?

DrFresh

@uhm (Kazuma) i’ve noticed early in the game u had made barely much reading and thought but u had some level of conviction biased to words icet being innocent, and considering Ngekop can read icet quite well you didn’t really question the fact that icet might actually be mafia

I just ended a game with then as town.(idk if thats angleshooting) Im pretty sure they’re town here

@uhm (Kazuma) i think is odd for you to clear low posters more easily to high posters, u said there was definitely a mafia between them, you didn’t say why but u just left it at that, u hard cleared people who weren’t necessarily low posters at first, and now u came in fluff posting by arguing about how i should play but not doing much, which would be odd to me considering that in practical terms we are playing quite the same if u were indeed making genuine reads as u gave 0 reads overall

4:11 p.m.

hmm maybe i meant more like, u make reads but u don’t explain them

DrFresh

@uhm (Kazuma) i think is odd for you to clear low posters more easily to high posters, u said there was definitely a mafia between them, you didn’t say why but u just left it at that, u hard cleared people who weren’t necessarily low posters at first, and now u came in fluff posting by arguing about how i should play but not doing much, which would be odd to me considering that in practical terms we are playing quite the same if u were indeed making genuine reads as u gave 0 reads overall

Im just saying you’re a hypocrite. You can’t complain and say “low posters are making me not wanna play” when you yourself are one of us

uhm (Kazuma)

Im just saying you’re a hypocrite. You can’t complain and say “low posters are making me not wanna play” when you yourself are one of us

hmm you’re right about that

4:12 p.m.

now what?

4:12 p.m.

where do we go from here

4:13 p.m.

@uhm (Kazuma) do u genuinely clear icet?

DrFresh

@uhm (Kazuma) do u genuinely clear icet?

Not 100% percent. But Tl yeah

uhm (Kazuma)

Not 100% percent. But Tl yeah

see now here is the thing, you can put conviction and certain on a read that’s maximum a lean, it’s just odd, u gave the reaction of a town read when you have maximum a town lean

Huh

cant^

4:15 p.m.

@uhm (Kazuma) why are you a low poster?

4:16 p.m.

ik u are but why have u been innactive were u occupied or u just didn’t feel like it?

DrFresh

see now here is the thing, you can put conviction and certain on a read that’s maximum a lean, it’s just odd, u gave the reaction of a town read when you have maximum a town lean

I just said what gut told me to. Gut is never wrong

uhm (Kazuma)

I just said what gut told me to. Gut is never wrong

fine

DrFresh

ik u are but why have u been innactive were u occupied or u just didn’t feel like it?

We’ll firstly i had to watch my men play football (we lost I am so sad)

4:17 p.m.

Secondly I despise vanilla setups

so it’s a mix of both

4:18 p.m.

i see

uhm (Kazuma)

Secondly I despise vanilla setups

With every fibre of my being

why did u join?

4:18 p.m.

not AI but curious

I was pinged so I was like eh why not

@Alive Line NE

sup

4:25 p.m.

DrFresh

@Alive Line NE

What do you want

Code

What do you want

you

DrFresh

you

Why

4:26 p.m.

For what

do you actually have something to say or no

DrFresh

you

Ayo

Code

do you actually have something to say or no

❤️‍

this sounds more hostile than I intend it to be so don't take it negatively pls

4:27 p.m.

I'm just trying to work out if you were trying to say something

️

4:27 p.m.

no

alright

4:28 p.m.

then hi I want you too

4:28 p.m.

idk what for

4:28 p.m.

kidney transplant maybe

4:28 p.m.

sometime

can i take the other kidney

it's ok we can do it over a dinner date

Code

it's ok we can do it over a dinner date

i’m sorry i’m taken

4:28 p.m.

‍♂️

it's only a problem if they know

Code

it's only a problem if they know

oh scheisse

idk what that means

i’m scared

Code

idk what that means

shit in german

ah

“oh shit”

I mean I'm pretty sure you know this but in case you don't I'm jk

Code

I mean I'm pretty sure you know this but in case you don't I'm jk

nah you wasn’t joking, my chakras don’t lie

no but you do

@Xiaysa @uhm (Kazuma) thoughts?

about?

M2H

And here the response is just be defensive then leave.

so do you have any thoughts on what she actually said or was it not really ai to you

DrFresh

we really trying to make reads on low effort posters

yes because eaves is hell easy to read

DrFresh

why do i have to make reads on people that don’t even want to play the game

honestly why do they join at all

Code

honestly why do they join at all

you see what i mean?

4:33 p.m.

ik i’m a low poster but my motivation lies on whether everyone is willing to try

4:33 p.m.

like i’m still 100% here

well yeah, why join if you don't even want to play

4:33 p.m.

let someone else who wants to play join instead

DrFresh

well… it was a semi rhetorical question that would’ve lead to my opinion, if u feel annoyed that it flipped on u that’s ur problem

I mean tbh his response was right bc if you were mafia you could just copyread and I wouldn't have wanted to give you that chance either

or at least would play

first time eaves played she was 1000% active

4:34 p.m.

girl was on for the whole internet of day

Code

so do you have any thoughts on what she actually said or was it not really ai to you

not really tbh sounded about like last game

bro why are my messages so poorly written it annoys me

4:35 p.m.

like it feels like i just learnt english yesterday

M2H

2. have less posts than icet, another low poster

im not a low poster wtf

tbh icet isn’t low poster

4:36 p.m.

her posts are just fluff tho

4:36 p.m.

his* idk ur gender

i just dont post when no on eelse talks

4:36 p.m.

blobnod

I'll read rest later

DrFresh

@Xiaysa @uhm (Kazuma) thoughts?

On?

DrFresh

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best anime

uhm (Kazuma)

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This is best anime

4:41 p.m.

@DrFresh thoughts on what?

4:41 p.m.

no

4:41 p.m.

gintama is

no i am

4:42 p.m.

surely

4:42 p.m.

DrFresh

best anime

4:45 p.m.

complimentary best manga:

4:45 p.m.

the true goat of anime is frieren

4:45 p.m.

end of debate

ok agreed

DrFresh

the true goat of anime is frieren

havent watched that one yet tbh

4:46 p.m.

i need to

yes you do

M2H

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it’s repetitive asf ngl

4:47 p.m.

it’s like death note if death note was L alive for 50 eps

DrFresh

it’s repetitive asf ngl

im a sucker for death/debt trap game anime i cant help it

4:47 p.m.

i also really like kaiji

M2H

im a sucker for death/debt trap game anime i cant help it

same low-key

4:48 p.m.

best manga:

4:48 p.m.

second best:

4:48 p.m.

reason: Depression

Code

I dislike forums strongly

M2H

going AWOL and never coming back type read

What’s that again

Ngekop

What’s that again

He's basically saying people who are just afk

4:59 p.m.

absent without leave

DrFresh

tbh u can actually tell where i stand

I'm not calling m2h dumb but you're making assumptions about players being good enough to do this... in a newcomer game

5:00 p.m.

And tbh I couldn't really either

M2H

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Ew no

M2H

My PhD in Christ, there are 5-6 low effort posters in this game

Tf

M2H

well, why dont you try to read me, code, and nge

Idt mafia makes the same mistake of not killing me n1 when im being tr’d by everyone twice

Xiaysa

if you don't give out any reasonings then you're not much better than a low poster PaimonNom

not commenting on you specifically fresh, I just wanted to say I agree with this to some extent

So stop asking people to read me Why

players who can't be UNDERSTOOD to be trying aren't very helpful

Code

I'm not calling m2h dumb but you're making assumptions about players being good enough to do this... in a newcomer game

newcomer says nothing to me tbh

even if you think you're trying, if it isn't being understood then you should consider changing tact

on my newcomer game i was a newcomer and still got us the win

DrFresh

newcomer says nothing to me tbh

it means some players may genuinely be totally unable and you're assuming that they can

M2H

k so you said you wont try because there are low effort people in the game, so i said try to read the high effort people then and you flipped it on me when i already have reads in the thread about nge and code

So does he apparently

DrFresh

on my newcomer game i was a newcomer and still got us the win

yes but not everyone is you.

DrFresh

i don’t know if i’m allowed to show pics of my notes but i have notes

You arent

But you are capable of doing that as scum imo

DrFresh

i have my own playstyle and i’ve explained in multiple games why i play the way i do and it’s never failed me

Looks like we’re going for the sixth win huh

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fair comments kaz

Ngekop

Looks like we’re going for the sixth win huh

ofc imma make sure i don’t get a loss

Ngekop

Tf

hes dr fresh

5:06 p.m.

therefore a phd

DrFresh

on my newcomer game i was a newcomer and still got us the win

so? not everyone is you, you gotta face reality and accept that not everyone is automatically gifted at it

5:06 p.m.

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so... why are you here?

unless hes like dr dre

Code

so... why are you here?

that’s what i’m saying…

Ngekop

So does he apparently

in his imagination world

prettu sure we're all wondering that

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except for when you're neutral evil

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

Fresh has objectively given more thoughts than you imo

full of gumdrops and ice cream

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really? Eaves wasn't anywhere NEAR as aggressive as this

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Last two times you said that d1

Ngekop

Fresh has objectively given more thoughts than you imo

that’s why i said she is odd, you can’t fight me for something ur also doing and she did say she brought up my hypocrisy but idk if it came off that way at first

One day ended without you even sharing anything

5:08 p.m.

And got killed iirc

5:08 p.m.

The other you got lynched last minute

Ngekop

One day ended without you even sharing anything

broski i wanted to but fell asleep i was tired asf

Just make sure this time you do say whatever you think BEFORE eod1

Code

really? Eaves wasn't anywhere NEAR as aggressive as this

i might be somewhat biased in that they literally pushed me for no reason

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

It isnt

5:09 p.m.

But also you had TMI and i dont see how is icet any similar in here

kaz knows that meta reading isn’t angle shooting let’s be fr

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Ohhh which team

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ENGLISH

5:12 p.m.

ALSO LIKE I GENUINELY THOUGHT THIS WAS XIAYSA’S NAME PRONUNCIATION

oh i could tell

5:12 p.m.

but dw, it really isn't

5:12 p.m.

it's a mistake a lot of people make

5:12 p.m.

it's more like Ex-aye-sah

5:12 p.m.

rather than that

5:13 p.m.

just straight out that

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Icet is scum

5:13 p.m.

Ziel wants to play with me ig we keep wanting to roll scum together

5:13 p.m.

And it keeps not happening

5:13 p.m.

Idk that is what im guessing bc i did ping her to join

Nge you keep saying icet is scum but like

5:14 p.m.

The only reason you've given is his opener to your sus

5:14 p.m.

And I haven't read it but still

DrFresh

that’s why i said she is odd, you can’t fight me for something ur also doing and she did say she brought up my hypocrisy but idk if it came off that way at first

Im a guy bro

Ngekop

Ziel wants to play with me ig we keep wanting to roll scum together

welp maybe one day

As for @DrFresh

5:15 p.m.

I want to learn how to read his stuff

DrFresh

it’s like death note if death note was L alive for 50 eps

L dies?!?!

uhm (Kazuma)

Im a guy bro

ur a monkey actually

Idk how to tho but

5:15 p.m.

Idk maybe one day

Ngekop

L dies?!?!

crazy

(Jk)

Code

He's basically saying people who are just afk

Ik but what does awol mean

Ngekop

But also you had TMI and i dont see how is icet any similar in here

TMI?

Code

absent without leave

Oh ok

@Ngekop out of curiosity do u think u can read me?

@DrFresh if I ask you after the game will you explain how to read your shit or does not answering questions extend beyond gameplay

Code

I'm not calling m2h dumb but you're making assumptions about players being good enough to do this... in a newcomer game

Except M2H is clearly more experienced than this and is at least proven to be decent

Code

@DrFresh if I ask you after the game will you explain how to read your shit or does not answering questions extend beyond gameplay

in what way do u mean by reading my stuff?

Ngekop

Except M2H is clearly more experienced than this and is at least proven to be decent

I'm not calling m2h dumb

btw this is my d1 gameplay

5:17 p.m.

it changes afterwards

Ngekop

Ohhh which team

When I say football I mean “soccer” btw

DrFresh

in what way do u mean by reading my stuff?

like you keep saying "oh I already said all this if you just read and use logic" and all that

DrFresh

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Tf is this thing

DrFresh

btw this is my d1 gameplay

i’ll explain why i play the way i do, like ACTUALLY, not a shit explanation but this is just my d1 playstyle after d1 i answer questions as long as they don’t annoy me

Ngekop

Tf is this thing

berserk

Ngekop

Tf is this thing

you know paper mache

M2H

unless hes like dr dre

Lol

it looks like ravioli mache porn

DrFresh

ur a monkey actually

That’s very racist and I am horribly offended (im joking)

DrFresh

i’ll explain why i play the way i do, like ACTUALLY, not a shit explanation but this is just my d1 playstyle after d1 i answer questions as long as they don’t annoy me

so is that a yes?

uhm (Kazuma)

That’s very racist and I am horribly offended (im joking)

ur still a monkey

Code

so is that a yes?

sure

DrFresh

sure

ty

Code

really? Eaves wasn't anywhere NEAR as aggressive as this

Wait what

5:19 p.m.

She was

5:19 p.m.

But she also omgus’ed

never saw her bitching about my reads in ANY previous games

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Who’s she?

she's only ever done similar as scum and only.privstely

Ngekop

Who’s she?

meant kazuma

everyone in server will have issues with my reads but here's them anyway tc: nge fresh I guess prob town: icet m2h...? unread: kaz likely scum flip: eaves ziel atm

5:21 p.m.

who tf am I missing

5:21 p.m.

oh xia

5:21 p.m.

uhh

5:21 p.m.

xia unread

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And how he got less motivation since then and just given superficial reads based on activity

Ngekop

And how he got less motivation since then and just given superficial reads based on activity

isn't the latter also a Kaz thing?

DrFresh

ur a monkey actually

@Shadi my monkey!

I've got a jar of monkeys

5:22 p.m.

I've got a jar of monkeys

DrFresh

@Ngekop out of curiosity do u think u can read me?

No

And guess what's inside it

uhm (Kazuma)

When I say football I mean “soccer” btw

Ik

Code

everyone in server will have issues with my reads but here's them anyway tc: nge fresh I guess prob town: icet m2h...? unread: kaz likely scum flip: eaves ziel atm

town clearing me and nge is crazy

specially nge idk…

DrFresh

town clearing me and nge is crazy

specially nge idk…

I have a good read rate on nge

5:23 p.m.

if he's scum it takes me a couple days bit I've found him every game except first

5:24 p.m.

and even first I sussed him f3

i guess but town clear idk about that one

but threw my vote

Ngekop

Ik

Oh then liverpool.

you don't think nge is town?

no comment

Well shit

5:24 p.m.

guess I'll have to iso him tomorrow

Code

isn't the latter also a Kaz thing?

I dont give superficial reads based on activity

uhm (Kazuma)

I dont give superficial reads based on activity

I meant for this game specifically

Code

never saw her bitching about my reads in ANY previous games

Bc you didnt sr her when she was town except when she was inactive af she just dm’d me about you claiming to be so good at reading her and yet misreading her in b2b games

maybe I'm misremembering g

Ngekop

Bc you didnt sr her when she was town except when she was inactive af she just dm’d me about you claiming to be so good at reading her and yet misreading her in b2b games

I've sr'd her as town multiple times and she's never

5:26 p.m.

ever

5:26 p.m.

responded like that

5:26 p.m.

also @eaves if you've got something to say say it to my face not behind my back, thanks

Code

isn't the latter also a Kaz thing?

Except kaz’s wasnt prompted by a tunnel on him by a strongish player

uhm (Kazuma)

Oh then liverpool.

Oh fun

Ngekop

Bc you didnt sr her when she was town except when she was inactive af she just dm’d me about you claiming to be so good at reading her and yet misreading her in b2b games

also she misses the part in those "b2b games" where I always get the right read in the 3nd

5:27 p.m.

never mislynch her

he is a high level player, so to me reading what he says semi useless, so instead i read his character, the narrative he uses to read the game is the only way i can read him and that’s because he is consistent in his blending, i feel like that characteristics is a bit off right now, i feel it hardddd, but the only reason i’m accepting it for now is because i’m unsure if the reason i feel the way i feel is because this is a mountainous lineup and not role lineup @Code

Code

guess I'll have to iso him tomorrow

I hope so

5:27 p.m.

didn't realise she was so privately pissy about mr

DrFresh

no comment

Oh fresh sr’s me?

me

Ngekop

Oh fresh sr’s me?

Hey everyone fresh sr’s me!!

do i?

for thousand of years i lay dormant...

Code

also @eaves if you've got something to say say it to my face not behind my back, thanks

I mean she was already dead/lynched

5:28 p.m.

And you were still alive in the game

DrFresh

he is a high level player, so to me reading what he says semi useless, so instead i read his character, the narrative he uses to read the game is the only way i can read him and that’s because he is consistent in his blending, i feel like that characteristics is a bit off right now, i feel it hardddd, but the only reason i’m accepting it for now is because i’m unsure if the reason i feel the way i feel is because this is a mountainous lineup and not role lineup @Code

Whats a mountainous lineup

She couldnt say it to you lol

uhm (Kazuma)

Whats a mountainous lineup

vanilla lineup

Until way after

5:28 p.m.

She probs just forgot

DrFresh

he is a high level player, so to me reading what he says semi useless, so instead i read his character, the narrative he uses to read the game is the only way i can read him and that’s because he is consistent in his blending, i feel like that characteristics is a bit off right now, i feel it hardddd, but the only reason i’m accepting it for now is because i’m unsure if the reason i feel the way i feel is because this is a mountainous lineup and not role lineup @Code

not sure what you mean by narrative but I'm probably just not good enough

Ngekop

She couldnt say it to you lol

Could've after

5:29 p.m.

But my point is even then I still fix my read before she is lynched and even when I do sr her as town (and I HAVE) she never responds so angrily

5:29 p.m.

she has never said to me like, oh I can't take you seriously or anything like that

Code

didn't realise she was so privately pissy about mr

Nah idt she was tbh

it reads as genuine "Why am I found immediately" anger

Also read her last game

5:30 p.m.

When i was pushing her

in every game I've heard her talking about me it's always been negative

5:30 p.m.

calling me stupid or dumb or whatever or implying it

Last time eaves was really nice to uou

5:30 p.m.

You

Code im ngl

privately

why do you town lean me

Oh

when last game you stubbornly kept your sl on me all game

5:31 p.m.

and this game you had that slean at least a while

M2H

when last game you stubbornly kept your sl on me all game

you're comparing rational code to bad mental headspace code.

M2H

and this game you had that slean at least a while

your continued game has made up for your shit start

Code

not sure what you mean by narrative but I'm probably just not good enough

it’s like the way someone goes about the game, it’s like meta but to me it’s not the same, cause for meta is more micro and more wrong (not true), whilst when i say narrative i mean more macro as i’m looking at him as a whole a how he goes by this game

Code

she has never said to me like, oh I can't take you seriously or anything like that

Ok but compare it to how she replied to me

5:32 p.m.

Last game

5:32 p.m.

She was like

5:32 p.m.

Uh the sticker of the angry dog flipping the table

DrFresh

it’s like the way someone goes about the game, it’s like meta but to me it’s not the same, cause for meta is more micro and more wrong (not true), whilst when i say narrative i mean more macro as i’m looking at him as a whole a how he goes by this game

i’m accepting that the feeling i have is wrong because idk how he goes about the game in mountainous

I cant find it

Ngekop

Uh the sticker of the angry dog flipping the table

yeah but stickers are never as serious as actual words in my eyes

5:33 p.m.

I don't take stickers/emoji seriously ever

5:33 p.m.

the difference is with you she used effectively what could be considered a meme

5:33 p.m.

with me she actually said it out loud

Ngekop

Except M2H is clearly more experienced than this and is at least proven to be decent

experienced enough to read minds?

5:33 p.m.

not really

Code

I don't take stickers/emoji seriously ever

Fair but that wasnt it

tbh at this point I might just not engage with Eaves period

She even made a comment about betting on it

5:34 p.m.

And her blocking me after the game

if that's how she talks about me then she isn't worth my energy

And was like

5:34 p.m.

Mocking the sr on her

yeah but that still sounds more high effort than whatever this has been

i’m confused cause eaves was ACTIVE first time she played here

5:35 p.m.

like it’s not even a joke

Eaves is sleeping rn

DrFresh

i’m confused cause eaves was ACTIVE first time she played here

she has been only semi active as most in any game I've played with her

I hope she wakes up soonish

I hope she actually says what she's thinking and doesn't hide behind others

nge u just gonna ignore everything i said?

i have 0 respect for people who won't say things in public but will privately

5:36 p.m.

sorry for keep going on about it, you have late night code rn

5:36 p.m.

I'm done ranting now tho

Ngekop

And her blocking me after the game

o

DrFresh

it’s like the way someone goes about the game, it’s like meta but to me it’s not the same, cause for meta is more micro and more wrong (not true), whilst when i say narrative i mean more macro as i’m looking at him as a whole a how he goes by this game

so like... how his reads/behaviour changes as a general thing over the course of the game?

i remember the game i got the whole mafia team correctly day 1, and lead a vote on one of them, and then eaves best friend said “eaves would never tunnel on her own” so i cleared eaves who i thought was mafia, and she rubbed it on me after the game

Code

so like... how his reads/behaviour changes as a general thing over the course of the game?

it’s hard to explain, i really wish i could explain it properly , it’s basically soul reading, like sometimes i have the worst explanation on why someone is mafia simply on the fact that my read doesn’t have solid reasoning is just a pattern recognition

DrFresh

nge u just gonna ignore everything i said?

I know my alignment

5:40 p.m.

And im not at risk of getting lynched anytime soon

5:40 p.m.

What’s the point

DrFresh

it’s hard to explain, i really wish i could explain it properly , it’s basically soul reading, like sometimes i have the worst explanation on why someone is mafia simply on the fact that my read doesn’t have solid reasoning is just a pattern recognition

yeah tbh this does make it hard to understand your point but I also get it sort of inherently because I find my reads don't always have explanations but are right

Ngekop

I know my alignment

u have an itch you tend to not control urself when faced with stuff like this so i’m shocked u don’t respond

like kaz's ne game, I sussed him immediately but had no solid reason to, I just felt it

(I also want you to keep your sl/null read bc that increases the chances for me to survive tn)

Code

yeah tbh this does make it hard to understand your point but I also get it sort of inherently because I find my reads don't always have explanations but are right

exactly that

DrFresh

u have an itch you tend to not control urself when faced with stuff like this so i’m shocked u don’t respond

Bc rn i do want to have people questioning me

Ngekop

Bc rn i do want to have people questioning me

where were you 292 nights ago at 7.14pm

hi

Also you arent even pushing me in a tunneling or unreasonable way

hello icet

Ngekop

Bc rn i do want to have people questioning me

I mean

Ngekop

Also you arent even pushing me in a tunneling or unreasonable way

i wouldn’t tunnel on you

why are you letting icet go

Code

where were you 292 nights ago at 7.14pm

Home probably

would be my q

Xiaysa

hello icet

you acted and act like that is a

5:42 p.m.

100% read

5:42 p.m.

and like you are confident on eaves as well

5:42 p.m.

but to a lesser degree

@M2H is someone confident on eaves being town?

DrFresh

@M2H is someone confident on eaves being town?

nope

The game will be stale for hours until she wakes up

uhm (Kazuma)

I just ended a game with then as town.(idk if thats angleshooting) Im pretty sure they’re town here

which game

Im not even gonna lie i didnt se her opening either

5:45 p.m.

Sr

5:45 p.m.

It was like

5:45 p.m.

Completely NAI

@Ngekop do you want me to not be able to read you as mafia?

is this the purpose of this? ur playing like d2 sp46

Forgetting about the game starting

5:45 p.m.

But wanted to see what would she do about it

DrFresh

@Ngekop do you want me to not be able to read you as mafia?

is this the purpose of this? ur playing like d2 sp46

I want to live to d2

5:46 p.m.

Idc about looking scummy as town to favor my future scum games

5:46 p.m.

I dont do that

u look low effort even tho ur talking a lot

(However i can try and look scummy to favor my current game)

Ngekop

I want to live to d2

lol who is dying over you besides a claimed mason tbh

5:47 p.m.

ngl

DrFresh

u look low effort even tho ur talking a lot

Bc this is the only game im in that i actually care about but i am not having much good reads bc i cant focus that much when i also have to focus on producing content

5:47 p.m.

@Ziel (Nge's sis) btw exist

idk who even dies in this playerlist

twtbaw huh

Code or me

lame

Unless someone leads a scum cfd

5:48 p.m.

Or we force a mason to claim

mafia win rate goes up bigly if i get n1'd

5:48 p.m.

tbh

we should exe kaz and see them flip goon and then i become confirmed town

Why is kaz mafia

Ngekop

Why is kaz mafia

theyre suspicious

What for

Ngekop

What for

they are weaker than they were in the game where i subbed in for eaves

Ngekop

Home probably

So you have no alibi? Very convenient

i have flashbacks of the day i exc icet and she was inno, icet is naturally sus i think

Danger?! Icet!

which game

The one I fumbled

which game

DrFresh

i have flashbacks of the day i exc icet and she was inno, icet is naturally sus i think

this was like

5:52 p.m.

months ago

yes

because i vaguly remember but dont

5:52 p.m.

i think

5:52 p.m.

it was

5:52 p.m.

the setup with 4 RT

5:52 p.m.

town won that one

Ngekop

@Ziel (Nge's sis) btw exist

Is ziel actually your sis?

Danger?! Icet!

town won that one

ofc

u were

cause nge the goat was there

town there

5:53 p.m.

prboably

5:53 p.m.

nge was

5:53 p.m.

doing this weird

5:53 p.m.

play

5:53 p.m.

with PR claiming

yes

Danger?! Icet!

they are weaker than they were in the game where i subbed in for eaves

Wdym

Danger?! Icet!

with PR claiming

Except i was pr

5:53 p.m.

It was annoying

5:53 p.m.

I was veteran

uhm (Kazuma)

Wdym

ur weak monkey

I wanted them to visit me

Danger?! Icet!

which game

Like the recent one

5:53 p.m.

Co

They DID believe my TI claim

5:54 p.m.

But thought other role claims were more important to take care of zzz

that game was funny

5:54 p.m.

HeHe

uhm (Kazuma)

Wdym

you were more

5:54 p.m.

agreesive

5:54 p.m.

or

5:54 p.m.

confident

DrFresh

ur weak monkey

I know you are but what am I

a bigger impression of you

@Danger?! Icet! so here’s the thing

im not accepting your deal

Danger?! Icet!

you were more

I dont think ive ever in my life been aggressive in these games

5:55 p.m.

Unless im scum

Wasnt going to propose a deal

wowee

Just telling you how things would happen

5:55 p.m.

Although

5:55 p.m.

You saying that

5:55 p.m.

When the deal i proposed implied you not killing me

5:55 p.m.

Is weird

5:55 p.m.

Why wouldnt you accept the deal

5:55 p.m.

If you cant kill

its like

5:56 p.m.

admitting my guilt

5:56 p.m.

which i dont have

5:56 p.m.

so

5:56 p.m.

cant admit my guilt

No it isnt

Ngekop

No it isnt

i dont accept plea deals

5:58 p.m.

5:58 p.m.

im a proud and upstanding indiviual

5:58 p.m.

If you are town you just accept it but all you do is PROMISE if you are maf i dont die tn (that way if you are maf and still kill me you would be losing your honesty

5:59 p.m.

For a game

5:59 p.m.

Like yikes

Ngekop

If you are town you just accept it but all you do is PROMISE if you are maf i dont die tn (that way if you are maf and still kill me you would be losing your honesty

i night kill whoever i want

6:01 p.m.

SmugAnime

6:01 p.m.

im a free person

Danger?! Icet!

i night kill whoever i want

do you night kill whoever you want or night kill nobody?

Danger?! Icet!

https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1217911784309133472/1219359800429777027

there are a ton of people i would night kill if i could

7:15 p.m.

you're saying you can night kill anybody you want?

@eaves

Ngekop

@eaves

what

8:21 p.m.

which pfp do you like more

M2H

you're saying you can night kill anybody you want?

eaves

which pfp do you like more

Hmm

as an innocent townsfolk there's no one i'd wish to die

Im biased

8:24 p.m.

Bc this one is with the one i met you and lov-

8:25 p.m.

Liked you p much*

8:25 p.m.

i'll keep it then

@eaves

10:05 p.m.

You have

10:06 p.m.

6 votes on you

Ngekop

6 votes on you

oh no

eaves

oh no

You dont care?

Aur naur

Eavesssss

Danger?! Icet!

Aur naur

wait did you sleep at all

10:47 p.m.

wrong reply

10:47 p.m.

i meant nge

10:47 p.m.

but i hope you slept well icet

I'm sleeping rn ty

10:47 p.m.

eaves

wait did you sleep at all

Yeah

12:38 a.m.

I slept like

12:39 a.m.

5h after we finished

12:39 a.m.

As in after we finished i slept 5h

12:39 a.m.

@eaves why dont you care

12:39 a.m.

About being top wagon

Ngekop

About being top wagon

i just don't

i'm not ok being lynched but i don't care enough to fight it

Last time you at least were confident

12:44 a.m.

The vote on you was absurd and you shouldnt had been sr’d

12:44 a.m.

Rn you are not even showing that

wait the message benchmark is 25 i thought it's 10 Thunk

Ngekop

The vote on you was absurd and you shouldnt had been sr’d

well i don't wanna call anyone stupid this time i've had enough of that in sp Hehe

12:46 a.m.

actually did i call anyone dumb in the last ne

12:46 a.m.

not nge at least

eaves

actually did i call anyone dumb in the last ne

Idk if dumb but you did keep saying it was dumb to vote you

12:48 a.m.

Anyways i hate doing this even but w/e

yeah idk

12:50 a.m.

i feel like it's kinda making me toxic

12:51 a.m.

well i am kinda toxic but you know Logical_Sip

12:51 a.m.

why are you removing your vote

12:51 a.m.

that's genuinely kinda mafia behavior

eaves

that's genuinely kinda mafia behavior

Look who decided to show up

2:26 a.m.

Anything you wanna say to me or are you just gonna do it in private?

eaves

why are you removing your vote

Bc

2:26 a.m.

Your wagon went p fast and this is stale

Code

Anything you wanna say to me or are you just gonna do it in private?

huh?

2:28 a.m.

do i owe you something?

Code

Look who decided to show up

"look who decided to show up" like i have an obligation here or something

2:28 a.m.

what the FUCK are you talking about dumbass

You signed up to the game so actually you do

eaves

do i owe you something?

no but having you complain TO me rather than ABOUT me would be nice

eaves

what the FUCK are you talking about dumbass

lol keep going

Code

no but having you complain TO me rather than ABOUT me would be nice

when did i complain about you...

2:32 a.m.

what

2:32 a.m.

what are we talking about code

2:32 a.m.

@Code

2:33 a.m.

@Code

2:33 a.m.

@Code

Don't spam ping me lmao

2:33 a.m.

How about the first game we ever played where you effectively said I was dumb

2:34 a.m.

And a couple games ago where you dmd nge to bitch about me

what?

All I'm saying is if you got something to say say it to my face

2:35 a.m.

That's my piece done

do you think you're important? "the first game we ever played" as if i remember that. get a life

2:36 a.m.

i have nothing to say to you

2:36 a.m.

you do not matter to me, and i doubt to anyone

2:36 a.m.

if i wanna call you dumb i will call you dumb, i wouldn't just "effectively" call you dumb

2:37 a.m.

but yeah after whatever the fuck this is supposed to be, i do think you are dumb now

2:37 a.m.

stupid fuck

Code

And a couple games ago where you dmd nge to bitch about me

What

2:42 a.m.

Hey hey chill

2:42 a.m.

I said eaves didnt necessarily think you can read her well

eaves

but yeah after whatever the fuck this is supposed to be, i do think you are dumb now

what the fuck is your problem

2:46 a.m.

is it me or your life

2:46 a.m.

because you've like never been this aggressive and yes I'm an asshole but this shit ain't deserved

2:47 a.m.

like genuinely are you okay

you pissed me off so yeah i'll come back at you lmfao

Good morning

Ngekop

I said eaves didnt necessarily think you can read her well

yeah that's funny because i talked to you about it since we were factional. it's a game where code says i'm the "easiest" person they can read in a game where they couldn't read me. the game was ongoing too so wtf do they want me to do

2:56 a.m.

here i thought i was the nicest person to code since we ever played but apparently that's not what they think

Code

All I'm saying is if you got something to say say it to my face

uhm (Kazuma)

Click to see attachment 🖼️

shut the fuck up

eaves

you pissed me off so yeah i'll come back at you lmfao

literally all I said was don't talk about me behind my back??

2:56 a.m.

no I have a right to defend myself

Code

no I have a right to defend myself

from what you idiot

eaves

yeah that's funny because i talked to you about it since we were factional. it's a game where code says i'm the "easiest" person they can read in a game where they couldn't read me. the game was ongoing too so wtf do they want me to do

I mean I've never mislynched you

eaves

from what you idiot

your dumbass rampage

2:58 a.m.

you do understand my way of reading you came straight from robyn and it has never failed me

2:58 a.m.

I didn't invent it

2:58 a.m.

and if you wanna not be misread that way maybe... consider... playing the game?

eaves

shut the fuck up

No. Leave me alone

Code

your dumbass rampage

which you started?

all I said was don't talk about me behind my back and then YOU called me a stupid fuck who didn't matter to anyone and probably never will

2:59 a.m.

tell me how those two things are proportional

that's true i said that and you deserved it

cool guess I'll just go kill myself then or something if you feel that way

you come at me thinking you're so brave or something of course i'll be pissed

ALL I SAID WAS

3:00 a.m.

Don't talk about me

3:00 a.m.

Behind my back

3:00 a.m.

How is that brave

3:00 a.m.

How is that deserving of basically being told ill never matter

Cmon just stop this already and chill

3:02 a.m.

3:02 a.m.

It ain't gonna get anywhere

That’s enough of this. Without mentioning everything else, personal insults are never acceptable. Stop it immediately. If you have grievances with other players, doing this is not an option and if it continues I will have to handle it further.

eaves

yeah that's funny because i talked to you about it since we were factional. it's a game where code says i'm the "easiest" person they can read in a game where they couldn't read me. the game was ongoing too so wtf do they want me to do

Yeah code didnt even sr’d you as town

3:17 a.m.

Your point was to code saying you were town when you werent

Ngekop

Yeah code didnt even sr’d you as town

This is literally not true

3:18 a.m.

I have sr'd her as town on multiple occasions

3:18 a.m.

Most recently the one where she replied with the 100 emoji and then someone refused to lynch her because of it

3:18 a.m.

wanna say it was m2h but I don't know

Code

I have sr'd her as town on multiple occasions

No ik

3:19 a.m.

Im saying when eaves said that

3:19 a.m.

It was after a time you tr’d her when she was scum

3:19 a.m.

So it was 100% pointing out you werent reading her correctly

She's only ever been scum in like 1 game I've played iirc

Not complaining about it

Also I never claimed to read her correctly

Code

She's only ever been scum in like 1 game I've played iirc

Sp46

The one I replaced out of?

You both replaced out that game

That doesn't count lol

Ye

I was barely playing that game

W/e

Can we just.

Usually when

Not continue this please nge

A wagon formed fast

3:20 a.m.

That is what im trying

I don't want to give her room to keep going at me

Ngekop

A wagon formed fast

And votes become stale after that

3:20 a.m.

The wagon usually is on town

3:20 a.m.

Just stop it and focus on the game (everyone)

Ngekop

Just stop it and focus on the game (everyone)

You brought it up again after Mel tried to shut it down

Code

You brought it up again after Mel tried to shut it down

Tbf when i replied

3:21 a.m.

1. I didnt read the personal attacks

3:21 a.m.

2. I didnt see it escalated to the point mel intervened

3:21 a.m.

I was literally backreading at different times

3:21 a.m.

Anyways

3:21 a.m.

Anyways

Ngekop

Usually when

This

3:21 a.m.

So eaves might

3:22 a.m.

Just be town

Honestly even if she is I'm not changing my vote rn

@Alive Line NE i get why code wouldnt but would the rest of you?

I would only consider it if its NOT to icet

3:23 a.m.

And not until later

(Unvote eaves and consider given how all this became stale after a p fast wagon on her she might just be town OR we just have a team of people with low influence and motivation that will inevitably die sooner or later)

Code

I would only consider it if its NOT to icet

W/e

3:23 a.m.

I was going to suggest ziel anyways

Ngekop

W/e

why do you keep responding with this when I say stuff

Dont take it personal

3:24 a.m.

When i say w/e is

like I've always read it as passive aggressive/kinda pissy so I just wanna know what you are actually intending

Even if we dont agree

3:24 a.m.

Not worth discussing rn

3:24 a.m.

I just take it that we dont agree and move on for now

3:24 a.m.

That’s why w/e

are we still not pressuring m2h today

Not saying “w/e you’re dumb/wrong”

like are you sure he's town

Code

like are you sure he's town

Ofc im not

3:25 a.m.

But ziel only has

3:25 a.m.

One bad opening

3:25 a.m.

And never got more than one vote

3:25 a.m.

Also like i doubt both scums are on eaves

3:25 a.m.

And i tl’d fresh

Fresh thinks he's solved the game does that mean he thinks ziel and eaves

3:25 a.m.

Zznot eaves

3:25 a.m.

Fuck

3:26 a.m.

kaz

Ziel and kazuma probs

3:26 a.m.

Ye

3:26 a.m.

That’s what i thought

3:26 a.m.

Not what i think is the solve^

I don't think it's the solve either

Ngekop

That’s what i thought

What i think is FRESH’s solve^

And honestly if it's just fresh all this time imma be annoyed

I think it’s ziel and one in icet/m2h

3:27 a.m.

Or you in case deepwolf and you playing your best scum game so far

I would personally go m2h over icet every time bc I just don't see the same tells in icet as I have in the past

Ngekop

Or you in case deepwolf and you playing your best scum game so far

Idk what deepwolf is

A mafia that goes deep into the game

3:27 a.m.

Hard to catch

3:27 a.m.

Endgames usually

3:28 a.m.

Basically 90% of the games where im scum

3:28 a.m.

Im deepwolf

Also there were points m2h felt like he was rowing back his sus so he could have a defence, like he wanted to sheep you but then he said icet was playing differently to last game where he was scum but still might be scum

3:28 a.m.

Combined with his opening that's why I early sussed hil

3:28 a.m.

him

What i didnt like was the inconsistency with him tc’ing us then acting like we are barely tl’d especially me

3:29 a.m.

Btw code i think there is like

3:29 a.m.

0.01 chance

3:29 a.m.

We both make it to d2

3:29 a.m.

So uh

3:29 a.m.

I think it is fair to ask 2 things in case i die

3:30 a.m.

1. Dont hammer d2 before 24h have passed if we mislynch today

Ngekop

What i didnt like was the inconsistency with him tc’ing us then acting like we are barely tl’d especially me

This is fair yeah

2. Dont hammer until everyone has spoken nmw bc you can literally lynch a mason

I am much closer to a real tc on code

That’s good

3:30 a.m.

I want to live

The tc on you was somewhat more aspirational

Idc im not getting lynched this game

But I do think you break towny still

Im lynching the mafs before that even becomes a possibility

3:31 a.m.

(I.e. before lylo)

Ngekop

Idc im not getting lynched this game

More likely than that I get lynched tbh

3:31 a.m.

I have never once been mislynched.

M2H

More likely than that I get lynched tbh

I mean

Even though last game I was on the edge.

I have only been once and it was the town throwing everything

3:32 a.m.

It was mission mafia

3:32 a.m.

And the players were

3:32 a.m.

Org players

3:32 a.m.

Basically if you didnt excel at the challenges that had nothing to do with mafia

3:32 a.m.

You’re out

3:32 a.m.

So i really doubt me getting lynched is ever more likely than you getting lynched

3:33 a.m.

Even if code dies n1 since code is like the main push on you

3:33 a.m.

But yeah i think i can get you lynched this game before i get lynched kinda like

3:33 a.m.

Always

Ngekop

So i really doubt me getting lynched is ever more likely than you getting lynched

There's a reason I'm unlynchable here

Unless you’re mason ofc

Ngekop

What i didnt like was the inconsistency with him tc’ing us then acting like we are barely tl’d especially me

Was he also calling us out for similar or am I misremembering

M2H

There's a reason I'm unlynchable here

I mean the one time i was mislynched

3:34 a.m.

Was when it had nothing to do with mafia

3:34 a.m.

They lynched the towniest people just bc they werent good at missions

3:34 a.m.

I got voted out in an org basically

3:34 a.m.

And well

3:34 a.m.

I have been town like what

3:34 a.m.

40 times?

3:34 a.m.

And in the rest i only die at night

Think about it a bit but yeah you can't lynch me

Or bc a mafia had a day shot

Sorry bud

I have only ever been lynched once and I was wolf and didn't have a chance to defend

Why are you even challenging me rn

Ngekop

Or bc a mafia had a day shot

I say we pressure him out of spite lol

I mean he is

3:35 a.m.

Highkey asking for it

I am genuinely trying to get a

3:35 a.m.

tc going and I think I found you both as town

3:36 a.m.

even though y'all both do stuff I don't really like

3:36 a.m.

and it's frustrating that you can't find me town here

M2H

even though y'all both do stuff I don't really like

Like what

Code

Like what

I mean Nge jumps around from wagon to wagon with very little explanation.

M2H

I mean Nge jumps around from wagon to wagon with very little explanation.

I havent done this

3:38 a.m.

But i can en

3:38 a.m.

Rn

3:38 a.m.

Idm

And you are way easier to read this game than last game imo but you being really inconsistent on my slot doesn't help. I went from bad -> town lean -> wanting to pressure me.

Indeed

3:38 a.m.

I mean you challenged me

3:39 a.m.

Im taking it out of pride idc

3:39 a.m.

Let’s see who wins a thunderdome in us 2

And a few votes isn't really pressure. I hate that we are calling it that.

@eaves now i let you vote m2h

lol

I mean if i thunderdome you i only need 5 votes, right?

3:40 a.m.

I can get code/ngekop/ziel/xiaysa for instance

Unfort the Mafia team only has 2 votes

And maybe eaves as well

Code doesn't want to vote me if they're consistent

3:40 a.m.

They just think I'm skating by without any pressure

3:40 a.m.

They town lean me

But code would vote you over me

3:40 a.m.

Kinda always

Try again

Code tr’s me

I'm not 1v1'ing you

3:41 a.m.

Just saying you can't lynch me

But you dont have much of a choice if i do

Ngekop

But you dont have much of a choice if i do

I mean I can just ignore you

You have to vote a counter wagon and get that wagon 5 votes

3:41 a.m.

You cant really ignore 4 votes on you

Yeah I can

Eaves would out of self pres

3:42 a.m.

Ziel loves to sheep me for some reason

3:42 a.m.

Im already voting you

I mean if you want to dick measuring contest me

I mean you said smth i disagree with and idm testing it

I'll just ignore you, not get voted, and likely not join next time you ping me.

How come

3:43 a.m.

I cant lynch you anytime you join?

3:43 a.m.

What is that reasoning

But if you wanna win then let's get the town core on the road.

I want to win

3:44 a.m.

Yes

3:44 a.m.

So what

Ngekop

I cant lynch you anytime you join?

I mean you can't lynch me when I'm town, in general.

I will take that challenge one day as mafia

3:44 a.m.

But rn i dont know you’re town

Ngekop

But code would vote you over me

This is true

I think my sample size is bigger than yours here

But this is kind of a dick move yeah. And I'm not thunderdoming you anyways.

It isnt

3:45 a.m.

It would be if i tr’d you and didnt care

3:45 a.m.

The thing is you have been null for me all game

M2H

And you are way easier to read this game than last game imo but you being really inconsistent on my slot doesn't help. I went from bad -> town lean -> wanting to pressure me.

This is fair but in my defence I've been asking to pressure you from close to the start and that hasn't changed, even when I towned you.

Code

This is fair but in my defence I've been asking to pressure you from close to the start and that hasn't changed, even when I towned you.

I don't know what pressure even means in this context.

And rn even without all this thingy

And as for Nge I thought his Eaves wagon was explained, are you referring to something else?

M2H

I don't know what pressure even means in this context.

It means put votes on you

Is it lets vote M2H for the lulz?

I would vote you over code/eaves/fresh/xiaysa

3:46 a.m.

And myself ofc

Why do you want to pressure your town lean, idgi.

So you were already in my bottom 4 poe

Today I would really only vote you, Eaves, or maybe ziel

M2H

Why do you want to pressure your town lean, idgi.

Info

3:47 a.m.

I'll read up later

3:47 a.m.

Brb

Icet/kaz/m2h/ziel are the 4 i would rn lynch b2b2b2b

And Nge why do you pair me/Icet?

3:47 a.m.

Or rather

I would want to go icet and ziel first

Strictly not pair us

Did i say that?

Yeah

3:48 a.m.

You said Ziel and one of me Icet

I think i said smth like not to clear you if icet flipped scum

M2H

You said Ziel and one of me Icet

Where

3:48 a.m.

Oh i did

3:48 a.m.

Nvm

3:48 a.m.

Idk, ig i think it is likelier ziel is mafia than you

Ngekop

I think it’s ziel and one in icet/m2h

Here

Yeah

3:49 a.m.

Ik

3:49 a.m.

Well i did say one in icet/m2h/code

3:49 a.m.

Not long ago

3:49 a.m.

I just went with that and kinda removed code for now

also

3:56 a.m.

unrelated but important

3:57 a.m.

if there are any hiring managers in the chat

3:57 a.m.

dm me

3:57 a.m.

i need a J-O-B

I just really don't want to lynch icet today

4:11 a.m.

Maybe it's just me but m2h does feel slightly concerned about how we perceive him compared to last game when he actually had a wagon for a while

Ngekop

Ziel loves to sheep me for some reason

Kaz would sheep me so that's 4

Tbh nge I think the other mafia is between Ziel and Xia

4:34 a.m.

Purely on the basis that Xia silent votes

4:34 a.m.

I said that and immediately realised it is semi dumb so I will reassess later

oh i honestly just don't have much to add to what has already been said 99Aheh

4:39 a.m.

+ sorta busy, but i'll go more into my decision later once i'm done with my current work o7

4:40 a.m.

don't blame you for finding it a bit sus

Xiaysa

+ sorta busy, but i'll go more into my decision later once i'm done with my current work o7

I think the problem is you've done it on multiple occasions now

4:57 a.m.

The reason I said it might be dumb is bc if m2h flips mafia it clears you

4:57 a.m.

But if he flips town then it really doesn't so idk

I'll keep that in mind o7

5:00 a.m.

But yeah dw, I don't blame you for finding it sus

@M2H Just to check... you do realise you made yourself top wagon by swapping off eaves right?

Code

@M2H Just to check... you do realise you made yourself top wagon by swapping off eaves right?

yea

Alright

not sure whether the self-pres behaviors of

6:00 a.m.

scummy/town lean/confirmed scum players

6:00 a.m.

should really be your concern though

Code

Tbh nge I think the other mafia is between Ziel and Xia

^

I just wanted to make sure because it was a weird choice to me

6:01 a.m.

Didn't know if you knew or not

figured id give you and nge a handicap

6:01 a.m.

this means that icet will vote me

6:01 a.m.

gl with the last vote you need

M2H

gl with the last vote you need

Wdym

6:01 a.m.

Today is no hammer

6:01 a.m.

You just die if you have most

which im confident wont happen

You currently have most

ok

Whether it sticks or not idk, we will see

and i dont really care

6:02 a.m.

i have tried to put forth solving

6:02 a.m.

and expressed my reads

6:03 a.m.

so if you wanna kill me then just go ahead and try

Ok

6:03 a.m.

Well sorry if you're town ig

Code

Well sorry if you're town ig

nah fuck your apology

Oh boy now we got another one hating on me huh

6:03 a.m.

International fuck code day?

Code

International fuck code day?

I mean you have been playing international fuck m2h this whole game ngl

I can't help that my gut thinks you're mafia

I thought you were coming around midday

6:04 a.m.

and you thought the same last game too

6:04 a.m.

I think you're town and just can't read me

6:04 a.m.

but don't go half in half out

M2H

I thought you were coming around midday

I did genuinely town you, the problem is my logic head read town and my gut really pulls mafia

6:05 a.m.

That's why it's inconsistent

you just really don't like my tone

6:05 a.m.

that

6:05 a.m.

is all it really is

I didn't at the start no

6:05 a.m.

But after that

6:06 a.m.

You were fine

and you don't now

6:06 a.m.

I just don't understand how you go from

I mean I don't love "fuck your apology" but

6:06 a.m.

Other than that I don't have a problem with you

SL -> TL -> lock scum

6:06 a.m.

to the point of

6:06 a.m.

saying you are now looking for the other one??

The two I mentioned are scummy irrespective of you

yes the point being

If I can't read you so be it, but I won't know if I don't try

you went from a TL on me (me placed #4) to apparently putting me in the bottom 1 or best case scenario bottom 3. and the post I quoted implies that you are locking me in as scum.

M2H

you went from a TL on me (me placed #4) to apparently putting me in the bottom 1 or best case scenario bottom 3. and the post I quoted implies that you are locking me in as scum.

Placement is irrelevant because I didn't do them in order

Code

If I can't read you so be it, but I won't know if I don't try

This

6:09 a.m.

Out of curiosity why the hate for me specifically

6:09 a.m.

Is it just bc of the inconsistency

Because my town read on you is harder

6:10 a.m.

I actually put Nge like a null/very slight tl

Didn't you say a couple hours ago you were sort of tc'ing him?

Yeah

6:10 a.m.

I was hoping I could bait the mafia team into

6:10 a.m.

killing him tbh

Why

Because I doubt he's going to be an easy read for me this game.

6:11 a.m.

And I strongly doubt he's a mason.

Tbf I don't think you really need to bait it given he or I dies tonight 90% of the time here

He won't die if he's scumread for sure.

6:12 a.m.

And yeah, when I said he was tc

M2H

Because I doubt he's going to be an easy read for me this game.

I am very confused as to your stance on nge. It feels like you're doing similar to him as you say I did to you

I was also assuming a few things

6:12 a.m.

one being that the read on Icet was ironclad and we were going in on that.

6:12 a.m.

It now seems that Nge doesn't want to flip that.

6:12 a.m.

I figured that kind of push is probably coming from

6:13 a.m.

town with a genuine good read or town that is tunneling and wrong

6:13 a.m.

both of which are town

6:13 a.m.

it would be a weird angle that hurts his cred as scum

6:13 a.m.

but then we go to the jumping around behavior

6:14 a.m.

where Nge went Icet -> Eaves -> Me

6:14 a.m.

and I still think the shift off Icet was 90% Eaves having a bad intro yeah?

6:14 a.m.

Not anything Icet did

6:15 a.m.

but he also puts POE at Ziel + one of Icet/Me

6:15 a.m.

which implies me and Icet are mutually exclusive

6:15 a.m.

Point being, I'm not seeing any reason for Nge to not be on Icet again.

6:16 a.m.

As he had the super strong SR early and also says one in Icet/Me

6:16 a.m.

w/e

6:17 a.m.

my brain is tired

fwiw

6:18 a.m.

if you do flip here and flip town

6:18 a.m.

I'll push nge tomorrow

6:18 a.m.

maybe

6:19 a.m.

would be nice for nge to explain why he put you and icet in the same bracket though

I'm ngl the conciliatory stuff just ticks me off

6:20 a.m.

and chaining actions based on town flips

6:20 a.m.

is similarly bad play

6:21 a.m.

@Code I want you to make your case for why I'm scum, and say it in a way to where I actually can believe you mean it.

M2H

I'm ngl the conciliatory stuff just ticks me off

i mean I don't think there's anything I can say here that won't so maybe we should just stop then? Idk

M2H

@Code I want you to make your case for why I'm scum, and say it in a way to where I actually can believe you mean it.

Will in a bit, doing coursework

6:22 a.m.

whether you believe it or not is up to you, I can't make you but it doesn't make it less true for me

And like cut it with the wishywashy well my brain says town but my gut says scum and well if you're town I'll do xyz

6:23 a.m.

Last game I believed that if you were town you actually scum read me

M2H

And like cut it with the wishywashy well my brain says town but my gut says scum and well if you're town I'll do xyz

that's just. the straight up truth.

this game I genuinely don't

why do you think I chose yager last game

6:23 a.m.

bc gut

6:23 a.m.

from the start

6:23 a.m.

if you're going to dismiss my explanations as wishy washy or whatever else what's the point in me providing them

6:23 a.m.

You won't believe them anyway it seems?

If you can't provide a non-wishywashy case on me, should you really be on me d1?

it isn't about proving, it's about you not believing ANYTHING I respond with

6:24 a.m.

but like I said

6:24 a.m.

I'll state it later, im trying to work

6:24 a.m.

it's a waste of time though

Hello

6:31 a.m.

I'm sorry

6:31 a.m.

I've been busy ;-;

@Ngekop if you vote with me on Kaz and they're maf you lock town me for the rest of the game

OK @M2H Let's go Your entry was arrogant and reeked of unearned confidence. You were constantly addressing yourself not only as town but as town core in a way you didn't do last game and overall it felt too bold to an extent. You didn't display that type of behaviour before so I had to take the change into account. Then you dropped it pretty quick with not really any explanation at the time. In other words your personality the first 24 hours felt volatile. You said it was because of early day nerves and while I have no way of saying that's untrue, you REALLY don't come across as that type of player so this isn't an explanation I can particularly get on board with. Your reads on nge feel similar to what you think of my reads on you. It feels like you can't decide where to put him and you even said recently you want him to die because you think he's hard to read. Yet you've gone from tl'ing him to tc'ing him and sort of back again. I don't think you've sr'd him the way I did you so it's not exactly the same but the general inconsistency is sort of there. Same issue with Fresh as you said nge had with icet. You had issues with him, we discussed that sod1 but you wanted to sheep nge. Fine. Then you had that argument with Fresh and sort of just... stopped thinking anything about him altogether? Or at least haven't said anything on it since. Tbf you haven't really been pushing any kind of wagon imo other than calling out nge for not following on icet. And you call it wishy washy but my gut does play a part and that's just how it is. I was inconsistent on you because you looked sort of townish at times but I just genuinely feel the opposite even if I don't explain it well.

7:08 a.m.

Like I said before, believe it or don't but that's the truth and you believing me won't change that.

7:09 a.m.

I'm not actually clear what YOUR original reads are, so I might have to go back and iso you. Because your first one was sheeping nge and your second, Fresh, was never followed up on

7:09 a.m.

@Danger?! Icet! are you actually paired with m2h?

7:10 a.m.

am I wrong about you

7:10 a.m.

wait no that would be dumv

7:10 a.m.

nvm ignore me

Code

@Danger?! Icet! are you actually paired with m2h?

Yes

7:10 a.m.

Unless they're mafia

I was thinking why don't you want to vote m2h but then I remembered he pushed you with nge

7:10 a.m.

so you couldn't be a pair

7:11 a.m.

but why don't you want to vote him out of curiosity

I thought their intro was towny

Danger?! Icet!

I thought their intro was towny

Why kaz

7:12 a.m.

Not saying you're wrong just wanna know

I think their playstyle is off compared to the neighbourizet game

7:12 a.m.

They were more vocal of their reads there but here they're just

7:13 a.m.

"weaker" was my term

Fair point

para 1: I think its pretty obvious that my early game stuff about being town core was specifically saying town core from my perspective in coming up with a solve of the game. this was in the context of using the masons d2 plus two strong town reads (which fmpov is obviously me + 1) in order to shut the game down. Because in this set up town can have a POE of 4. meaning, masons clear

7:15 a.m.

oops

7:16 a.m.

masons clear 2, if mafia shoot in the citizen pool n1 they are already borderline fucked. but having two TR'd citties actually wins the game at that point.

7:16 a.m.

not the most useful mechanical spec

7:16 a.m.

but thats what i start the game with here yea

7:16 a.m.

so in this game I am literally just trying to find my

7:16 a.m.

one non-mason TR

7:17 a.m.

as to me that is the cleanest, easiest way to win

7:17 a.m.

and on Fresh

7:17 a.m.

I forgot what it was

7:17 a.m.

but I actually started TR'ing him midday LOL

7:17 a.m.

thats why I never push him again

M2H

and on Fresh

Midday what timezone

Fresh is prob my #4 tbh

7:18 a.m.

Midday game wise

7:18 a.m.

like

7:18 a.m.

half way through

7:18 a.m.

consult my reads list

7:18 a.m.

where you asked me for reads

M2H

Probably my reads are like this

here

7:20 a.m.

and most of the other stuff is just explained by my playstyle as town tbh

7:20 a.m.

I'm not a very proactive early game player

7:20 a.m.

I am a like #1 supporting town player early

Can someone who has played with/as neutral evil before explain how behaviour is different from factional scum, I thought it would be fairly the same tbh but apparently people don't think that

my strengths as a player are

7:21 a.m.

i become utterly obvious town to people that know me well, i don't ever get mislynched, i barely ever get nightkilled, and I have strong reads mid-late game.

7:22 a.m.

per my individual strengths yeah, I tend to just follow the players that are good at the early-game

7:22 a.m.

downside here is that the good early-game players here are either scum or can't find me like i am used to in my games

7:23 a.m.

which is why i find this situation frustrating

7:23 a.m.

last game i had some votes on me yeah but tbh i didnt give a fuck at all

7:24 a.m.

because by that stage i had tunnelled so hard on you that i was convinced i had both scum pegged

7:24 a.m.

but here im getting voted and dont really have that solid of a view on the game

7:25 a.m.

I am honestly kinda taken aback at the fact that Icet didn't just hop on my wagon TBH

7:25 a.m.

no idea how to interpret that AT ALL

@Ngekop you think m2h is mafia here?

7:36 a.m.

i need to iso them

7:37 a.m.

and see for myself

7:40 a.m.

could the team be m2h and kaz?

M2H

I am honestly kinda taken aback at the fact that Icet didn't just hop on my wagon TBH

I'm telling you, icet is 100000% town

7:47 a.m.

If icet is mafia then everyone can lynch me if they want

7:47 a.m.

I put my life in the game on it

Code

I'm telling you, icet is 100000% town

i mean

7:48 a.m.

them not just voting me like xiay

7:48 a.m.

is maybe making me more tenable to that possibility

7:48 a.m.

I gave them every possible reason to wanna vote me

7:48 a.m.

I was actually hard baiting them

There is no world here in which icet flips scum in my opinoon

and they still don't vote me

If I assume the hypothetical for a moment that you're town

I think only world where icet is scum

7:49 a.m.

its prob with kaz tbh

Then Xia/Kaz/Ziel holds a minimum of 1

Danger?! Icet!

@Ngekop if you vote with me on Kaz and they're maf you lock town me for the rest of the game

this reads like

7:50 a.m.

potentially a s / s thing

7:50 a.m.

but also like

7:50 a.m.

why even bother to go through with something like that

7:50 a.m.

with this positioning

7:51 a.m.

if im icet im

7:51 a.m.

not even entering the thread tbh LOL

7:51 a.m.

im just going afk and letting town eat itself

7:52 a.m.

so to think icet would come in and try to soft bus a teammate is maybe kinda crazy actually

7:52 a.m.

but ive seen s / s pairings that use this kind of angle

7:53 a.m.

and i also Think

when scummier players give super high confident reads in a way that seems like they are going after cred

Code

If icet is mafia then everyone can lynch me if they want

i love this, this is soooo me

like icet's framing there implies that icet knows that kaz is scum

7:55 a.m.

somebody beat some sense into me

7:55 a.m.

i cant get a job in my field

7:55 a.m.

and im highkey thinking about joining a manufacturer plant

7:56 a.m.

PROBABLY a bad idea

7:56 a.m.

since im a creampuff

Code

If I assume the hypothetical for a moment that you're town

I mean

7:57 a.m.

Nge already acts like he's gonna end up on Ziel

7:57 a.m.

so you might go for that

7:57 a.m.

and Kaz is looking like a likely counterwagon as well

7:58 a.m.

so I assume you will be happy by the choice of votes after the wagon on me utterly fails

M2H

im just going afk and letting town eat itself

With all due respect to icet I don't think they're in the top echelon of players

7:58 a.m.

So applying logic to them may not be AS useful as it would on someone like nge

7:58 a.m.

But yes

7:59 a.m.

It makes sense for icet to go for that play but not in the current game state

7:59 a.m.

There was no big wagon on him so it would only be for town cred, which could have had a better timing

i think kaz flips s and I look back at icet though yeah

DrFresh

i love this, this is soooo me

lol, I use this rarely but I'm super confident

kinda a

8:00 a.m.

last game you/pixel type read

M2H

like icet's framing there implies that icet knows that kaz is scum

Will have to reread

M2H

so I assume you will be happy by the choice of votes after the wagon on me utterly fails

I honestly just don't know what to think of you so I'm gonna let nge decide whether we stay on you or not

8:00 a.m.

If we don't though then yeah

8:01 a.m.

I also don't clear Eaves but I don't really have a right to go after her right now given that I'm biased and want her dead on principle tbh

Danger?! Icet!

They were more vocal of their reads there but here they're just

Because everybody else who could speak was dead

I only started speaking when code and dah died.

alrighttt i'm done with my work for today, finallyy

Code

lol, I use this rarely but I'm super confident

i love it so much, putting your ego at the risk of mockery!!! i like you code

this is what i like to see in this game

8:06 a.m.

i do that i’m almost 70% of my games

DrFresh

could the team be m2h and kaz?

Suddenly that's my viewpoint

Danger?! Icet!

Suddenly that's my viewpoint

think about it we got 1 active and 1 less active both said they could both be mafia, but neither bothered to placed evidential sus on each other, i smell pair

M2H

potentially a s / s thing

How is this a real thought

Code

Purely on the basis that Xia silent votes

but yeah no, i'm mostly just going with the flow when it comes to voting as of now since i'm new and don't really know how to read people well yet 99Aheh

so still hard for me to get any ideas who it could be without relying more on what others think as for why i voted m2h, it is because i have sort of just had a feeling about them since the beginning with the intro, came off as really pushy and motivated

In what world do I as mafia need to start a wagon on kaz

DrFresh

i love it so much, putting your ego at the risk of mockery!!! i like you code

this is what i like to see in this game

thanks, I think?

Danger?! Icet!

In what world do I as mafia need to start a wagon on kaz

i mean

8:08 a.m.

i qualified my statement

8:08 a.m.

but its also pretty obvious this wagon on me is gonna go poof

8:08 a.m.

and it could wind back up on you without a good counterwagon

No it sounds like to me you wanted to push a world but then realised how impossible it sounds and you're trying to justify it

M2H

and it could wind back up on you without a good counterwagon

I won't let this happen

8:09 a.m.

@Danger?! Icet! I will protect you dw

Ilyt

I'd rather they lynched me than you

I think there's a wolf in Kaz/ziel and im more confident with Kaz atm

If I end up regretting this I'm gonna be so sad

Danger?! Icet!

I think there's a wolf in Kaz/ziel and im more confident with Kaz atm

Why kaz over ziel?

8:10 a.m.

I would've gone the other way

Because I actually haven't read ziels logs lol

m2h is a not so pro town active player that’s how i see them, my micro read on them are deceiving tho

Danger?! Icet!

I think there's a wolf in Kaz/ziel and im more confident with Kaz atm

You cannot possibly be serious

there is no hammer right?

Not today

good

uhm (Kazuma)

You cannot possibly be serious

Danger?! Icet!

Because I actually haven't read ziels logs lol

You... you should

8:13 a.m.

They are ENTIRELY "hi I'm town"

I will! Soon

DrFresh

m2h is a not so pro town active player that’s how i see them, my micro read on them are deceiving tho

What's the difference between a micro and macro read?

8:14 a.m.

@Danger?! Icet!

8:14 a.m.

The entirety of her contribution

not even just a town claim

8:15 a.m.

a citizen claim

8:15 a.m.

im one to talk LOL

Code

What's the difference between a micro and macro read?

micro reads are focus on one specific point for example: Fresh said: ffs i got town again (this means his reaction is more likely to be town) macro reads take into account everything someone has said, you are not just focused on one specific message ur looking at the gameplay as a whole

as the most obvious citizen in the game

realistically speaking macro reads > micro … micro is only better than macro when you know how to use micro, i’ve been deceived by my micro reads hundreds of times

8:17 a.m.

but it’s too hard to control the bias of a micro read

8:18 a.m.

it’s just there bugging ur head every second like “but they said that… there is no way they are scum” and it turns out they are

are you saying that you macro scum read me and micro town read me?

8:19 a.m.

or something like that

yes

cool

8:20 a.m.

hopefully we can supersize that town side but its a start

but then again macro reads volatile micro reads are not volatile… micro have bias they stick with you and make u not macro read, whilst macros can change as u see how the players goes about the game

there's a lot of dirty dealing going on here, and im gonna need your help mr. clean...

a part of the reason i hate to answer questions and explain my thought process d1 is because if i say too much like i do now i allow scum to adapt to what i look for and it just makes my reads much worse @Code

DrFresh

micro reads are focus on one specific point for example: Fresh said: ffs i got town again (this means his reaction is more likely to be town) macro reads take into account everything someone has said, you are not just focused on one specific message ur looking at the gameplay as a whole

ah OK ty

DrFresh

a part of the reason i hate to answer questions and explain my thought process d1 is because if i say too much like i do now i allow scum to adapt to what i look for and it just makes my reads much worse @Code

understandable

8:22 a.m.

Tbh I'm willing to swap vote to ziel atp

i’m struggling to play this game because i don’t know how i’m meant to place scum in a box surrounded by less active players

DrFresh

i’m struggling to play this game because i don’t know how i’m meant to place scum in a box surrounded by less active players

big part of the reason I really really really wanted to be able to town core code and nge

8:24 a.m.

to just ignore everybody else

anyways i’m going back to life, i think innactive exc is better than an active exc… so i’m not going m2h

DrFresh

i’m struggling to play this game because i don’t know how i’m meant to place scum in a box surrounded by less active players

I've been having the same issue last few games

8:25 a.m.

is exc execution btw?

Code

I've been having the same issue last few games

the people in my community are extremely active when they play and picking out a mafia that slipped up d1 is easy because of it

8:26 a.m.

exc = execution yes

DrFresh

the people in my community are extremely active when they play and picking out a mafia that slipped up d1 is easy because of it

yeah, can imagine

how experienced is kazuma?

if we assume the m2h town hypothetical a bit longer then the mafia probably have to be: kazuma eaves ziel xiasya this is not in order

DrFresh

how experienced is kazuma?

probably somewhere between ziel and me? he's got some experience but not a large amount

8:29 a.m.

he's probably played less than 7 games here

if m2h flips town… that’s a big problem

if m2h flips town I'd iso nge

Code

he's probably played less than 7 games here

ok

I am fairly certain icet is pure at this point

i think ur right

Code

I am fairly certain icet is pure at this point

As i have said

we could end this game with a winning poe, i think that’s the best way to deal with the low effort

I forgot kaz also plays elsewhere

8:31 a.m.

So he does have some exp

Code

I am fairly certain icet is pure at this point

not voting me was towny yeah but the response to me suggesting a s / s was not very good imo

It sounded genuine to me

8:32 a.m.

There are better times to bus your partner than that moment in the thread

yeah

8:32 a.m.

but the indignation at posing the possibility

8:32 a.m.

was a little over the top imo

kaz is the most likely to flip scum to me

8:34 a.m.

@uhm (Kazuma) why are you voting eaves?

DrFresh

kaz is the most likely to flip scum to me

May I ask why?

Me/code/fresh/+masons

uhm (Kazuma)

May I ask why?

is me answering alignment indicative to you?

8:37 a.m.

cause i believe you should know my answer as i actually surprising did explain it before in a massive paragraph

DrFresh

is me answering alignment indicative to you?

No I just want to know the reasoning so I don’t feel bad about calling you an idiot.

DrFresh

cause i believe you should know my answer as i actually surprising did explain it before in a massive paragraph

Where

uhm (Kazuma)

Where

u quite literally answered the paragraph

8:38 a.m.

when i sent it

When

and everyone else questioned u for it aswell

8:38 a.m.

so u couldn’t call me an idiot

DrFresh

@uhm (Kazuma) why are you voting eaves?

@uhm (Kazuma) answer this tho?

Bro where

DrFresh

@uhm (Kazuma) answer this tho?

I just sheep code.

uhm (Kazuma)

I just sheep code.

then why are u still on eaves?

DrFresh

then why are u still on eaves?

Because gut tells me eaves>m2h

8:40 a.m.

Now where is this message you are speaking of?

uhm (Kazuma)

Because gut tells me eaves>m2h

you said code nge and m2h can’t all be town and that there is for sure a mafia there, if u are sheeping code and u trust nge then did u have progression?

8:41 a.m.

cause now ur hinting at progression with not much said

Huh

ur gut is now telling u that they are all town when u said the opposite not long ago

DrFresh

ur gut is now telling u that they are all town when u said the opposite not long ago

I never said they’re all town

uhm (Kazuma)

I never said they’re all town

u didn’t but ur hinting at it now

8:42 a.m.

When did I hunt

which is what i’m saying… ur hinting at ur thought of them being town but u said they can’t be town before

Eaves is just better d1

DrFresh

which is what i’m saying… ur hinting at ur thought of them being town but u said they can’t be town before

Huh?

uhm (Kazuma)

When did I hunt

u hinted it by calling each of them individually town

I have never called them town wtf

8:43 a.m.

Show me where I said such

then why are u sheeping code?

8:44 a.m.

why does ur gut tell u that m2h is town

DrFresh

then why are u sheeping code?

I always do

uhm (Kazuma)

I just sheep code.

This is usually true

DrFresh

why does ur gut tell u that m2h is town

Im not saying he is town im saying eavess is the D1

8:45 a.m.

M2h doesn’t go today

@uhm (Kazuma) why do you think eaves is mafia?

DrFresh

kaz is the most likely to flip scum to me

do you answer if I ask why?

DrFresh

@uhm (Kazuma) why do you think eaves is mafia?

Gut

uhm (Kazuma)

Gut

are all your town reads also gut?

Code

do you answer if I ask why?

He keeps referring to a message and doesn’t site it

DrFresh

cause i believe you should know my answer as i actually surprising did explain it before in a massive paragraph

oh yeah that thing

DrFresh

are all your town reads also gut?

Mostly yeah. Ziel is the same way she was in previous town games ive played with her

uhm (Kazuma)

I never said they’re all town

if there's for sure a mafia in the three of us, why are you not going after any?

@uhm (Kazuma) what are your town reads and what are ur scum reads?

uhm (Kazuma)

M2h doesn’t go today

m2h can very easily go today atm, so why eaves?

8:49 a.m.

I think eaves is actually LESS likely to be wagoned

DrFresh

@uhm (Kazuma) what are your town reads and what are ur scum reads?

Ziel and ice are town is all i got

kaz you know ily right?

Yeah

how do you get reads on low effort so confidently like bro i’m a trippin???

but your responses here are falling apart

Code

but your responses here are falling apart

Lemme cook

I'm voting mr clean

@Ngekop bro i swear if kaz flips town… idk what to tell you

For fucking mayor of Townsville

like imma just be confused asf as to how someone can be so sus as town

uhm (Kazuma)

Lemme cook

you just sound so panicked and out of sorts ;-;

Code

if there's for sure a mafia in the three of us, why are you not going after any?

In what world am I of all people capable of pushing either of you three?

Code

m2h can very easily go today atm, so why eaves?

No. He does not go today

uhm (Kazuma)

In what world am I of all people capable of pushing either of you three?

maybe you just play different but me, when I sus someone I stay on it regardless of who the wagon is

uhm (Kazuma)

No. He does not go today

He had top wagon

8:52 a.m.

he was very possible

DrFresh

like imma just be confused asf as to how someone can be so sus as town

I aint even done shit man

maybe I'm pushing a bit but

8:53 a.m.

is this a ziel kaz game?

Code

he was very possible

Pragmatically yes, but actually, no.

like it’s not even just kaz’s reads is the thing kaz does when he shows up to play, he is low effort and sus at the same, like when he just showed up to argue with me about my low effort, not mentioning the hypocrite part until i called out his low effort was just the beginning of mass of red flags

Code

maybe you just play different but me, when I sus someone I stay on it regardless of who the wagon is

Which is why I’m still on eavess bro

There are complicated law of attraction reasons why I couldn't ever get voted here that are just beyond your understanding of vibeology

uhm (Kazuma)

Which is why I’m still on eavess bro

But you said there was one in me, m2h and either icet or nge I forgot

Code

He had top wagon

He was like one higher than eavess if im not mistaken

uhm (Kazuma)

He was like one higher than eavess if im not mistaken

still top

8:54 a.m.

why do you sus eaves tho?

8:54 a.m.

like I'd love her to die here don't get me wrong

8:54 a.m.

but

M2H

There are complicated law of attraction reasons why I couldn't ever get voted here that are just beyond your understanding of vibeology

Exactly

Code

But you said there was one in me, m2h and either icet or nge I forgot

I towned icet

nge then

kaz said code m2h and nge

Anyway it’s me guys @frenezy you’re a genius. I can’t believe you caught me

uhm (Kazuma)

Exactly

I'm gonna need you to explain what I meant cause I sure as hell don't know what I meant

uhm (Kazuma)

Anyway it’s me guys @frenezy you’re a genius. I can’t believe you caught me

kaz why eaves??

Gut

uhm (Kazuma)

Gut

Bitch where

why more gut than nge, me, or m2h?

the thing that makes me more iffy is that even gut can be somewhat explained but kaz doesn’t want to explain it

Code

why more gut than nge, me, or m2h?

Gut doesn’t know. Gut knows only what gut knows

DrFresh

the thing that makes me more iffy is that even gut can be somewhat explained but kaz doesn’t want to explain it

in his defense "gut" is usually his go to as either

like u can’t mindlessly stick to a gut read unless u have a good reason

but he does have slightly more explanation as town

DrFresh

the thing that makes me more iffy is that even gut can be somewhat explained but kaz doesn’t want to explain it

I cba

Code

in his defense "gut" is usually his go to as either

but this is basically a tunnel on eaves cause he is not switching

8:58 a.m.

tunnel based on guy

8:58 a.m.

gut^

8:58 a.m.

is insane

DrFresh

like u can’t mindlessly stick to a gut read unless u have a good reason

I’ve always “mindlessly” stuck with gut. Reasons come after

DrFresh

is insane

I am insane

uhm (Kazuma)

I’ve always “mindlessly” stuck with gut. Reasons come after

but u said u voted eaves because u sheeped @Code and now ur voting eaves because of gut

8:59 a.m.

and ur tunnel visioning on eaves… it’s not adding up to me

DrFresh

and ur tunnel visioning on eaves… it’s not adding up to me

Then start subtracting

wut

DrFresh

but u said u voted eaves because u sheeped @Code and now ur voting eaves because of gut

Ping me before eod. I want to laugh in your face.

uhm (Kazuma)

Ping me before eod. I want to laugh in your face.

sure i’ll ping you

I will be taking not further questions at this time

just fyi if u think my ego will get damaged because a town is bad at being inno ur mistaken…

I just had a revelation about the game

9:03 a.m.

Can't out it tho

9:03 a.m.

I see you though peepostare

M2H

I see you though peepostare

tell me you sus fresh again without telling me you sus fresh again

9:10 a.m.

jk

DrFresh

but this is basically a tunnel on eaves cause he is not switching

Yeah problem is in other games he provides SOME explanation even if it is 90% gut

9:12 a.m.

this game he just hasn't, like at all

that’s what i’m saying you can definitely explain gut to some extent

9:14 a.m.

specially as town

9:15 a.m.

like idk something like “eaves sounds like they aren’t being genuine” but u can definitely explain the way you feel about someone just from gut

9:15 a.m.

even if it’s not perfect it’s still something

Code

tell me you sus fresh again without telling me you sus fresh again

Oh I am on to you

@uhm (Kazuma) no disrespect but if u manage to be this sus as town my only explanation for that is that ur a noob

If you know what I'm saying

DrFresh

@uhm (Kazuma) no disrespect but if u manage to be this sus as town my only explanation for that is that ur a noob

This is true either way tbh

M2H

Oh I am on to you

Do it I dare you

M2H

This is true either way tbh

true

@DrFresh kaz self vote is a very town!kaz move jsyk

i’m gonna wait to see what nge has to say about it

Code

Do it I dare you

I'm on to you on a different way

@Code don’t let urself be seduced

Oh hot

9:19 a.m.

Where are we meeting

DrFresh

@Code don’t let urself be seduced

I'm not, I just wanted to let you know

Well if we meet at my place

Code

I'm not, I just wanted to let you know

i mean by m2h

I'll bring shacks

DrFresh

i mean by m2h

oh lol

m2h is trying to seduce you

You might get killed but if we meet at yours

don’t allow it

I might get killed

it's ok he's an escort

and this way I buy his loyalty so the maf don't kill me

it’s all facade

M2H

I might get killed

let's meet at fresh's

so ur doing it in the street?

9:21 a.m.

i’m homeless

@Code Wendy's dumpster or no dice

9:22 a.m.

And by dice I mean STDs

Code

Yeah problem is in other games he provides SOME explanation even if it is 90% gut

Ive been half assing this one tbf

DrFresh

like idk something like “eaves sounds like they aren’t being genuine” but u can definitely explain the way you feel about someone just from gut

What can I say that about that hasnt already been said?

uhm (Kazuma)

Ive been half assing this one tbf

Well then you better whole ass and double cheek it up then.

DrFresh

i’m gonna wait to see what nge has to say about it

Nge is horrible at reading me btw

uhm (Kazuma)

What can I say that about that hasnt already been said?

say what’s already been said

Ehhhh

DrFresh

say what’s already been said

I refuse.

uhm (Kazuma)

And we are asking for your thoughts

we

9:31 a.m.

i’d says it’s pretty embarrassing to call me a hypocrite and doing the exact same thing as me

DrFresh

@uhm (Kazuma) i’ve noticed early in the game u had made barely much reading and thought but u had some level of conviction biased to words icet being innocent, and considering Ngekop can read icet quite well you didn’t really question the fact that icet might actually be mafia

Is this the message you were referring to earlier?

you found it

9:32 a.m.

the self voting gives me second hand embarrassment

DrFresh

i’d says it’s pretty embarrassing to call me a hypocrite and doing the exact same thing as me

You said “low posters make me not wanna play the game” i as a low poster called you out as hypocrite because you did the same as me

I never claimed to put effort into this shit

“we are asking for your thoughts”

9:33 a.m.

WE

9:33 a.m.

Who’s we?

We as town

9:34 a.m.

You cutting too deep into this

and u feel involved huh?

As a member of town yeah?

i ain’t even care anymore, im voting you out now because ur embarrassing, hopefully if ur town it makes u feel better

That is fine

DrFresh

i ain’t even care anymore, im voting you out now because ur embarrassing, hopefully if ur town it makes u feel better

btw for those that are wondering, what i mean by this, i find it too hard to believe that a town would embarrass themselves this much and go so low, to ruin a game for everyone by self voting

I'm not gonna lie I think kaz is town again

9:37 a.m.

For the same reasons you think he's mafia

Code

I'm not gonna lie I think kaz is town again

I swear if ur right

i’m sorry, but kaz needs some self reflection cause wtf am i watching

DrFresh

I swear if ur right

i’m sorry, but kaz needs some self reflection cause wtf am i watching

the more I think about it the less this is s!kaz behaviour

9:44 a.m.

can we leave him today?

9:44 a.m.

idk who else to go for atm I just don't feel like kaz

DrFresh

btw for those that are wondering, what i mean by this, i find it too hard to believe that a town would embarrass themselves this much and go so low, to ruin a game for everyone by self voting

I am a very very petty man.

I will compare ziel games later

Code

the more I think about it the less this is s!kaz behaviour

the tonality of kaz is inconsistent for this to be real so i don’t buy it

9:57 a.m.

it’s the opposite for me

wdym

Code

wdym

idk kaz, but the way kaz is not following through with his emotions, like it’s multiple emotions in different messages that don’t fit together, like he acted toxic by saying for me to @ him at the end but the petty act ended much there, before that it was simply answering us in a non toxic way… another thing was he didn’t react to our vote until later towards me and the self vote

10:00 a.m.

it was minutes later

makes sense

idk i don’t buy that the tonality and emotions are consistent

I am having such a bad game this game lmao

that’s all

like genuinely I am so bad atm

10:01 a.m.

I'll figure it out later

Code

makes sense

u read my paragraph in 1 sec?

DrFresh

u read my paragraph in 1 sec?

yes lol

You guys are actually serious about lynching me?

uhm (Kazuma)

You guys are actually serious about lynching me?

Idk I need to iso you later

12:19 p.m.

As of right now I'm not feeling it no

Can we just all settle on Ziel?

12:20 p.m.

I can't be here at eod

12:20 p.m.

At least I shouldnt

12:20 p.m.

I need a nap

M2H

Can we just all settle on Ziel?

I'm down for this.

12:22 p.m.

I think nge will be goo

12:22 p.m.

Kaz for sure would

12:22 p.m.

So that's 4

@uhm (Kazuma) I highly recommend joining us

Sure

bai

M2H

bai

bye

If Ziel flips town you’re getting an “I told you so”

uhm (Kazuma)

If Ziel flips town you’re getting an “I told you so”

If Ziel flips town then we're pushing m2h

12:34 p.m.

(Idk if we actually are, this was an impulsive response)

12:35 p.m.

I am currently stuck on a train

On your way home? Safe travels

Yup

12:36 p.m.

I'm hungry and I want food

safe travels!

Xiaysa

safe travels!

Ty

let's see, time for me to read up

Xiaysa

safe travels!

In terms of reading people. Just look for things like are they consistent with their reads/emotions, if not is there a logical reason (progression) or are they contradictory, who has good or bad interactions with who, who feels like they're forcing things etc

Code

In terms of reading people. Just look for things like are they consistent with their reads/emotions, if not is there a logical reason (progression) or are they contradictory, who has good or bad interactions with who, who feels like they're forcing things etc

noted, thanks Salute

overall i just need to get used to it, everything felt so confused for me at first and i'm still trying to understand what all the shortened words mean, tho i'm slowly grasping it all bit by bit with the context

12:38 p.m.

confusing*

12:38 p.m.

i don't wanna be asking for every little thing after all

poe - process of elimination s!/scum - mafia tvt / svs - town v town, scum v scum

12:39 p.m.

uhh what else

12:39 p.m.

exc - execution

12:39 p.m.

meta - reading people based of prev games

12:39 p.m.

ai/nai - alignment indicative/not alignment indicative

Code

@Danger?! Icet!

i dont think its ai for ziel

Danger?! Icet!

i dont think its ai for ziel

The problem with it is she has ONLY done that

12:40 p.m.

Whereas usually there's non-"I'm citizen" smalltalk too

Code

poe - process of elimination s!/scum - mafia tvt / svs - town v town, scum v scum

o tyyy

Code

The problem with it is she has ONLY done that

i dont think

12:42 p.m.

its AI

12:42 p.m.

i think shes just been busy

12:42 p.m.

cus in her wolf game which im refering rn

12:42 p.m.

ma58

12:42 p.m.

shes way more talkative

12:43 p.m.

xia is also an ok exe

12:43 p.m.

kaz's frustration is feels weird dk if its ai

12:44 p.m.

real not weird

i’m so sad i just finished frieren ep 27 and realised that after friday we not getting any more frieren for a long time

DrFresh

i’m so sad i just finished frieren ep 27 and realised that after friday we not getting any more frieren for a long time

IKR

12:44 p.m.

IM SO EMPTY

i just listened to that ending song like “fuck”

12:45 p.m.

“why”

i actually liked the first half opening

12:45 p.m.

a lot of people hated it but yaosobi always cooks

12:46 p.m.

second half opening is so boring

like frieren’s ability to be so wholesome and a loving show plus still hype me up is just unmatched… i don’t want it to end ffs

i heard apoc diaries is also good

12:46 p.m.

the manga so far has been ok

12:46 p.m.

i love these wholesome shows where they dont lewd anyone and its wholesome asf

i’m starting natsume today

Danger?! Icet!

i love these wholesome shows where they dont lewd anyone and its wholesome asf

frieren stuck in a chest

12:47 p.m.

so cute

Danger?! Icet!

kaz's frustration is feels weird dk if its ai

No his frustration is t!kaz

1:00 p.m.

I've seen it on multiple occasions

1:00 p.m.

That said I haven't seen him scum

1:00 p.m.

So idk

1:01 p.m.

I would be hella disappointed in Kaz is this is how he wolfs

Danger?! Icet!

i dont think

So who is your poe in order

I want someone to tell me the truth about this

2:08 p.m.

Has ziel talked since i last came in here?

Code

if we assume the m2h town hypothetical a bit longer then the mafia probably have to be: kazuma eaves ziel xiasya this is not in order

Same poe as me, just replace m2h with xiaysa

2:10 p.m.

Kazuma voting ziel after tr’ing her is interesting

2:10 p.m.

@uhm (Kazuma) did smth change or just self preservation?

Ngekop

Has ziel talked since i last came in here?

Only to say she was busy I think.

Ngekop

@uhm (Kazuma) did smth change or just self preservation?

The latter

Ngekop

Has ziel talked since i last came in here?

No

2:14 p.m.

@Ngekop I'm fairly confident Kaz is town. Can we lynch Ziel?

Code

So who is your poe in order

Xia

Code

@Ngekop I'm fairly confident Kaz is town. Can we lynch Ziel?

Let me read

2:21 p.m.

But aorn my vote would go on ziel yes

2:21 p.m.

But i want icet tomorrow

2:21 p.m.

Did xiaysa say why the vote on m2h?

2:22 p.m.

Kaz and ziel arent mvm

2:22 p.m.

@uhm (Kazuma) so you tr m2h over ziel

2:22 p.m.

?

Xiaysa

but yeah no, i'm mostly just going with the flow when it comes to voting as of now since i'm new and don't really know how to read people well yet 99Aheh

so still hard for me to get any ideas who it could be without relying more on what others think as for why i voted m2h, it is because i have sort of just had a feeling about them since the beginning with the intro, came off as really pushy and motivated

@Ngekop

2:25 p.m.

Tho I've been rereading a bit and trying to think about who to vote for instead since even if m2h feels a bit off I don't feel satisfied with the vote

Alright

2:25 p.m.

Interesting

At least not for now

Xiaysa is voting whatever i vote but for independent reasons apparently

Xiaysa

Tho I've been rereading a bit and trying to think about who to vote for instead since even if m2h feels a bit off I don't feel satisfied with the vote

Fair

Ngekop

But i want icet tomorrow

Rn I can't agree to that but we can revisit tomorrow

Ngekop

Xiaysa is voting whatever i vote but for independent reasons apparently

Nah I was mostly just following the group ngl but before I make a vote I always try to at least make my own opinion first

2:27 p.m.

Or at least think it through and see if I do agree with it or not

Ngekop

@uhm (Kazuma) so you tr m2h over ziel

This is confusing because he says theres 1 in you/me/m2h but he wants eaves

Wait no i also had icet over eaves

Ngekop

Wait no i also had icet over eaves

not sure what you're replying to

Ngekop

@uhm (Kazuma) so you tr m2h over ziel

No

Code

This is confusing because he says theres 1 in you/me/m2h but he wants eaves

Gut says there’s one in you three. Gut not sure who. Gut needs time

uhm (Kazuma)

Gut says there’s one in you three. Gut not sure who. Gut needs time

With all due respect what makes you think I could possibly be paired with eaves

@Code switch to m2 with me?

You did read the bit where she blasted me right

Code

With all due respect what makes you think I could possibly be paired with eaves

That is fair. I forgor

uhm (Kazuma)

@Code switch to m2 with me?

Maybe

Code

not sure what you're replying to

When i said the difference in our poe’s

Oh

Ngekop

When i said the difference in our poe’s

Wdyt, ziel or m2

uhm (Kazuma)

No

Why are you voting ziel over m2h then

Happy to flip either

Code

Wdyt, ziel or m2

They arent both mafias

Ngekop

Why are you voting ziel over m2h then

Self. Pres.

Ngekop

They arent both mafias

I'm asking you who you want to flip

uhm (Kazuma)

Self. Pres.

M2h also has

2:47 p.m.

2 votes

2:47 p.m.

Ziel had 2 without you voting her

Ngekop

2 votes

If me and kaz swap it'll be 4

2:47 p.m.

5 with you

Code

I'm asking you who you want to flip

Ziel over m2h aorn for me but

2:47 p.m.

Im trying to understand kaz

Why

Ngekop

Ziel over m2h aorn for me but

Why this i mean

In general m2h at least has had some good stuff imo

2:48 p.m.

Ziel hasnt

Ngekop

Ziel had 2 without you voting her

I was coerced.

Ngekop

Im trying to understand kaz

I am enigma

uhm (Kazuma)

I was coerced.

Ok but rn why are you

2:50 p.m.

Voting ziel instead of m2h

Because code hasn’t switched

So?

So??

Why are you following code

Idk

If you vote m2h you still survive

2:50 p.m.

So voting ziel isnt JUST out of self preservation

2:51 p.m.

Is what im saying

If I switch its still 3 -3

2:51 p.m.

Code must switch

What

uhm (Kazuma)

If I switch its still 3 -3

Have you read the vc??

Oh shit no its not

uhm (Kazuma)

Code must switch

Ties are RNG, you have a 50% shot if that happens

Interesting

Code

Ties are RNG, you have a 50% shot if that happens

Switchghhh

I wont vote kazuma dw

2:52 p.m.

But until i make up my mind

uhm (Kazuma)

Switchghhh

If I do it won't be until near eod because I don't want to give people time to adapt

I will vote one of thise

2:53 p.m.

Those

Code

Then Xia/Kaz/Ziel holds a minimum of 1

Probably

M2H

Nge already acts like he's gonna end up on Ziel

Yep

2:58 p.m.

Yet i made you top wagon instead

2:58 p.m.

Life is so mysterious at times

Danger?! Icet!

Suddenly that's my viewpoint

What happened with m2h towny daystart

Ngekop

What happened with m2h towny daystart

it got ruined by their wolfy dayend

DrFresh

@Ngekop bro i swear if kaz flips town… idk what to tell you

Wat

i havent seen fresh's wolf game but i think theyre towny

You speak a lot when i sleep seriously

sleep more than

3:01 p.m.

i think eaves reaction is townie

Hope i didnt miss any important stuff but im stopping right here

idk

So this stupid thing crashed but

3:01 p.m.

Kazuma said smth like

3:02 p.m.

“You guys serious about lynching me?

”

3:02 p.m.

Smth like that

3:02 p.m.

His first two games as town

3:02 p.m.

He was mislynched

3:02 p.m.

And he wasnt happy about it but also he wasnt like surprised

3:02 p.m.

He said his playstyle could lead to that or smth

3:02 p.m.

And he still gave his reads

wolves are in m2h / kaz / xia / ziel!!! i'm willing to trust code that Kaz is town but arghgh its okish I said Ziel not being active isnt AI but also not townie but i want them to talk more im not willing to lynch m2h lynch Xia!!!!

Anyways

why ziel

3:03 p.m.

shocked~1

3:03 p.m.

theyve been busy

3:03 p.m.

i dont want ot lynch them

Yes

bro

3:03 p.m.

if this flips town

1. She isnt towny

youre gonna feel bad about it

3:03 p.m.

and if this flips mafia

3:03 p.m.

im gonna feel bad about it

2. She will be force replaced

Ngekop

2. She will be force replaced

thats what im waiting for

I love ziel idk wdym

Danger?! Icet!

thats what im waiting for

Yeah im not

3:03 p.m.

Letting that happen

itStare

If she gets replaced she gets banned

3:04 p.m.

But that isnt the reason why im voting her

3:04 p.m.

@uhm (Kazuma)

Ngekop

Wat

i’ll explain why after the game, but genuinely if kaz is actually town i have something to talk to you after this game

The pingssss

Ngekop

His first two games as town

^

Danger?! Icet!

i havent seen fresh's wolf game but i think theyre towny

no one has tbh

What changed

Code

If I do it won't be until near eod because I don't want to give people time to adapt

We have like 55 minutes yk

fresh

3:05 p.m.

what do you think about xia

3:05 p.m.

xiaysa more like wolfysa

Icet+ziel

3:05 p.m.

We did it guys!

Ngekop

What changed

I don’t understand the question

I am curious about why you're going so hard after me icet

Ngekop

We did it guys!

NUH UH

3:06 p.m.

its poe

3:06 p.m.

i look so silly for defending wolves but im not silly because im not deefnding wolves

uhm (Kazuma)

I don’t understand the question

Well

3:06 p.m.

Rn you were like

Ngekop

Icet+ziel

Why Ziel tho, exactly?

Ngekop

Icet+ziel

@Ngekop Ziel is town. Trust

ok icet is sus

Not believing people were actually going to lynch you

DrFresh

ok icet is sus

womp womp

ok wait

3:07 p.m.

let me not micro again

the game is xia m2h gg

Xiaysa

Why Ziel tho, exactly?

Bc you might die if you dont vote her :)

Danger?! Icet!

the game is xia m2h gg

@Ngekop

Ugh

3:08 p.m.

If icet is town

3:08 p.m.

What can it be tho

Ngekop

What can it be tho

xia / m2h

No

yesh

Bro they are two of the three i tl the most

Ngekop

Not believing people were actually going to lynch you

I wasn’t really taking it seriously.Chat accused me and then died for two hours. I was just genuinely shocked that it was ac happening

Yes even above code

wtf how

Danger?! Icet!

what do you think about xia

you talking to me as if u know i’m town but u never brought my name to the plate as either town or mafia

Im starting to get paranoid there

Danger?! Icet!

wtf how

Fresh and xiaysa is tvt

DrFresh

you talking to me as if u know i’m town but u never brought my name to the plate as either town or mafia

Ngekop

Fresh and xiaysa is tvt

so

3:10 p.m.

you think the team is code/me?!?

M2h getting angry at code

Danger?! Icet!

you think the team is code/me?!?

No

Uhm whattt Hiiiiii

But one of you might be maf

No it's not 3:10

No one in here pinged ziel

3:10 p.m.

Yet she is here

Hellooooo

:(

Ngekop

No one in here pinged ziel

so

3:10 p.m.

so

I am trying to escape sleep

so

3:10 p.m.

i have a theroy

ok

Hello Ziel

Ziel (Nge's sis)

Uhm whattt Hiiiiii

They think you’re scum

and the theory is

3:10 p.m.

kaz and ziel are both town

uhm (Kazuma)

They think you’re scum

so

3:11 p.m.

if you think this is wrong then ok

3:11 p.m.

but

3:11 p.m.

yea

Danger?! Icet!

kaz and ziel are both town

If this is the case

Danger?! Icet!

kaz and ziel are both town

Half certainly truee

Either you are maf

3:11 p.m.

Or code/eaves is the team

i mean

I dont like kazuma’s inconsistencies

well

3:11 p.m.

kaz

are you a mason

Kaz and ziel is a difference check

3:12 p.m.

Why are you

3:12 p.m.

Asking him to claim today

3:12 p.m.

He isnt getting voted

because

3:12 p.m.

i think

3:12 p.m.

theyre masonst ogether

I claim citizen

3:12 p.m.

:O

If any ziel should be the one claiming

3:12 p.m.

See?

ziel

3:12 p.m.

are you a mason

Nope

3:12 p.m.

I'm not

oh

3:12 p.m.

ok

Ziel (Nge's sis)

I claim citizen

^

nvm that

Kaz voted ziel bro

uhm (Kazuma)

@Ngekop Ziel is town. Trust

this felt like a mason soft

Making it 3-2 on them

im mason

So mafias can keep me alive till the end

3:12 p.m.

:3

How would they be masons

i would vote my mason partner as well

3:13 p.m.

unpairing

NEARING EOD???

duh

Wtf is that

Oh

3:13 p.m.

What

Ngekop

NEARING EOD???

theres still 55 minutes and no solid wagon

When's EOD?

DrFresh

im mason

Why would you out this

in 45 minutes

In 47 minutes

55 mins till rp’d?

3:13 p.m.

eod*

I see...

@Ziel (Nge's sis) im the one right here trust

uhm (Kazuma)

Why would you out this

why are u lurking?

nge its so wolves like you dont night kill me or my partner

3:13 p.m.

DrFresh

why are u lurking?

Ive been

3:14 p.m.

Talking bro tf

Danger?! Icet!

nge its so wolves like you dont night kill me or my partner

No point if one of you gets lynched

You have beef with me or something?

Ngekop

No point if one of you gets lynched

long game

3:14 p.m.

trust

No

uhm (Kazuma)

You have beef with me or something?

no beef tbh just a lack of respect

thats what they least expect

That is just stupid

no

3:14 p.m.

well

DrFresh

no beef tbh just a lack of respect

Feeling is mutual then ig

yes i agree theres probably a wolf in ziel and kaz

Icet is mason hunting btw

BUT

uhm (Kazuma)

Feeling is mutual then ig

shouldn’t be

We should lynch him fr fr

i feel bad for voting either of them

But not today

mason hunting for a good cause

DrFresh

shouldn’t be

Yet it is

nge what if i was the mason

That’s why i said

3:15 p.m.

But not today

ok

cause i don’t respect u because of my values, u don’t respect me because of ur ego, which makes it more pathetic

i respect you if you have an anime pfp but there are exceptions

Me and ego???

The thing with icet is

3:16 p.m.

He is acting like mason rn

I think Kazu is town thouhg

But he legit

3:16 p.m.

Has no partner

3:16 p.m.

no partner as in no mafia partner so i cant be mafia

No mason partner

Ngekop

Has no partner

You want him to put his partner too?

3:17 p.m.

Out*

No

uhm (Kazuma)

You want him to put his partner too?

:O

It would have to be code or drfresh

Danger?! Icet!

(2)

I find it really hard

uhm (Kazuma)

Me and ego???

you self vote which is already pathetic, ruin the game because u can’t handle being voted, and when someone susses u, u enjoy seeing them being wrong so u want to get voted… in general i think it’s pathetic (+ joining a newcomer game u don’t even want to play) so in gesamt i can’t respect you

That ziel and kaz are both towns

ok

I don't

Wait kazuma self voted?

yup

I didnt see that

3:18 p.m.

Aight let’s vote ziel

Okay

3:18 p.m.

Bye guys

3:19 p.m.

See y'all next game

:(((((

gg

Why gg

breathe

I hope I don't get cit again

3:19 p.m.

Oh gosh

Ziel

3:19 p.m.

If you are town

Yeah??

Would you forgive me?

DrFresh

you self vote which is already pathetic, ruin the game because u can’t handle being voted, and when someone susses u, u enjoy seeing them being wrong so u want to get voted… in general i think it’s pathetic (+ joining a newcomer game u don’t even want to play) so in gesamt i can’t respect you

That is okay? You dont have to yk

Yuz

For lynching you

3:19 p.m.

Kk

I already forgave you even if you're mafia

3:19 p.m.

I can see it from miles away

3:19 p.m.

:O

If im maf i pocket you

3:20 p.m.

Be real

No you don't

3:20 p.m.

;-;

But im getting paranoid again

uhm (Kazuma)

That is okay? You dont have to yk

nah i just want you to self reflect, cause i done what u don’t before (but i don’t anymore)

When you were mafia

I have seen townier ziel tho

3:20 p.m.

So idk

You literally put me in like

Oh true

Yeahh

3:20 p.m.

I'm willing to be the first mislynch

3:21 p.m.

What an honor

Ziel (Nge's sis)

I hope I don't get cit again

This comment is

3:21 p.m.

Aaaaaaa

I'm special enough to be voted

3:21 p.m.

:3

3:21 p.m.

;D

3:21 p.m.

Yuzz

Okok

My Defeatist attitude

3:21 p.m.

Always arises

3:21 p.m.

;-;

3:21 p.m.

I'm sorry people

Drfresh/kazuma/icet/m2h/ziel/code/eaves/xiaysa

I really don't know how to

3:21 p.m.

Like

3:21 p.m.

Stop it

@M2H Rn where are your reads at

3:22 p.m.

Have they even moved?

Ngekop

Drfresh/kazuma/icet/m2h/ziel/code/eaves/xiaysa

@Code save Ziel

Ngekop

Drfresh/kazuma/icet/m2h/ziel/code/eaves/xiaysa

2 mafs in here

3:22 p.m.

2 mafs in here

3:23 p.m.

I tl’d fresh/m2h/xiaysa/code at first

Ngekop

2 mafs in here

Well I mean you listed all of us so duh

And i usually dont tl both mafias

3:23 p.m.

So

3:23 p.m.

I should stick with 1+ in

3:23 p.m.

Ziel/eaves/kaz/icet

uhm (Kazuma)

Well I mean you listed all of us so duh

Ik

3:23 p.m.

Im thinking

Ngekop

Ziel/eaves/kaz/icet

If eaves is maf

Mb

If I was mafia, Nge would really be not my partner

3:24 p.m.

Cause

Ziel (Nge's sis)

If I was mafia, Nge would really be not my partner

What is this

If he was I would've thrown a party

3:24 p.m.

Like it is true and ofc it is but

3:24 p.m.

Why saying it

So if I'm mafia, Nge's not mafia

3:24 p.m.

But if I'm not

3:25 p.m.

Wait

3:25 p.m.

Wha

Why does that matter to you

Oh yeahh

If you are town

Ngekop

Why does that matter to you

Cause

It says nothing about my alignment

I have nothing to say

3:25 p.m.

:3

:/

I literally have to write a hundred slides

3:25 p.m.

But here I am procrastinating

3:25 p.m.

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Wow

3:26 p.m.

Ziel

I dununoo

What are they about

Research

3:26 p.m.

Characteristics

3:26 p.m.

Nature

3:26 p.m.

Parts

3:26 p.m.

Subparts

3:26 p.m.

Subexamples

3:26 p.m.

gfrjxtgddhkjr

so many slides to write kianasweat

3:26 p.m.

rip

I KNOWWWW

3:27 p.m.

AHHHHHHHHHHH'

make sure to take regular breaks tho! don't overdo it and make sure to rest your head a bit too

Ngekop

Ziel/eaves/kaz/icet

If icet is maf the last is probs m2h

3:27 p.m.

And even that team is

3:27 p.m.

Weird

3:28 p.m.

Icet MIGHT be town after all

hmm true

Xiaysa

make sure to take regular breaks tho! don't overdo it and make sure to rest your head a bit too

Thp

3:28 p.m.

Thank you!!

Hi xiaysa

hello nge

Also like,

3:28 p.m.

Don't go under the rain, people

Ziel (Nge's sis)

Research

Of what

It'll give you headaches

i am very curious about why icet is trying to push me tho, i never got a response to that

Ngekop

Of what

Practical Research 1 That's literally our subject

ooof

3:29 p.m.

glad i only got mostly lab reports and tests every 1-2 weeks at most

3:29 p.m.

for now

Icet could also be with fresh

3:29 p.m.

Ig

Ngekop

Drfresh/kazuma/icet/m2h/ziel/code/eaves/xiaysa

what is this

i believe in you ziel, you can do it angelpray

Talking exclusively about pairs outside of the poe

3:30 p.m.

Bc icet can also be with eaves

3:30 p.m.

Or with ziel

DrFresh

what is this

Every player outside of me

3:30 p.m.

Imo eaves would be with code

3:31 p.m.

And code could only be with eaves

3:31 p.m.

Maybe

3:31 p.m.

Code could also be with kazuma ig

3:31 p.m.

Ok so

THANK YOU VERY MUCHH YOU HAVE RAISED MY MORALE ✨ ✨

Code/eaves Or one in ziel/kaz/icet

3:32 p.m.

Hm

3:33 p.m.

@DrFresh have you given out your reads?

Ngekop

@DrFresh have you given out your reads?

yes

Day ends in 27 minutes

3:33 p.m.

Where

3:33 p.m.

Or what were they

i’ll give them now

3:34 p.m.

sr- kazuma

3:34 p.m.

the rest i’ll leave it as ???

What

3:35 p.m.

Ok anyways

3:35 p.m.

Kaz isnt with fresh

3:35 p.m.

Kaz isnt with m2h

they are left unknown

3:35 p.m.

i’m not saying my town leans town reads and scum leans

Ig he could be with xiaysa but im willing to say no to that

scum read is enough for today as that’s the most important one for now

That means

3:36 p.m.

Code/icet/ziel has a mafia

Xiaysa

i am very curious about why icet is trying to push me tho, i never got a response to that

It was mainly BC I thought everyone else was town

Ngekop

Code/icet/ziel has a mafia

3:36 p.m.

Ok so

3:36 p.m.

If ziel is town

3:36 p.m.

Code is mafia

i see i see

3:36 p.m.

Nvm

Danger?! Icet!

It was mainly BC I thought everyone else was town

This towny tho

Ngekop

Code/icet/ziel has a mafia

But i will stand by this

3:37 p.m.

@Ziel (Nge's sis) question

3:37 p.m.

If you were@maf

3:37 p.m.

Were maf

3:37 p.m.

What do you think your reaction would be

Ngekop

Code is mafia

bro what sort of logic is that

To this wagon?

DrFresh

bro what sort of logic is that

Ignore it i tr’d icet for a sec over smth i shouldnt have

u don’t scum read someone because someone is town… the other way around makes sense

DrFresh

bro what sort of logic is that

Here is my logic tho

3:38 p.m.

I tl’d m2h/code/fresh/xiaysa

3:38 p.m.

I dont tl both mafias

3:38 p.m.

Im trusting myself in there

3:38 p.m.

Wait

so ur using some sort of poe

Im ignoring kaz/eaves as a potential team

Still think xia maf

DrFresh

so ur using some sort of poe

Yes but no

3:38 p.m.

Bc look

3:39 p.m.

That means one maf in

3:39 p.m.

Icet/kaz/ziel/eaves

3:39 p.m.

At least

Ngekop

What do you think your reaction would be

To whatt

Eaves isnt with anyone but code imo

3:39 p.m.

Bc idt

3:39 p.m.

Eaves goes that aggressive

3:39 p.m.

Against code as scum

3:39 p.m.

Unless it was sketched

3:40 p.m.

Or eaves and code having some actual beef in scum chat

Ziel (Nge's sis)

To whatt

Being top wagon

3:40 p.m.

Getting lynched

3:40 p.m.

What would you be saying

If I was mafia

Ye

the low efforts are extremely low effort and nonchalant to the point it’s just pissing me off

I would be hopeless

Ngekop

Icet/kaz/ziel/eaves

So

Cause rn

I'm sowwy fresh

This transforms into

I'm busy

3:40 p.m.

;-;

Danger?! Icet!

I'm sowwy fresh

ur good

3:41 p.m.

wtf

Eaves+code

I'm actually writing stuff now ;-;

Or one in kaz/icet/ziel

3:41 p.m.

Ye?

3:41 p.m.

Idt kaz is with m2h

If we get to f5 with 2 mafia I think code/xia

i’m talking about ziel eaves kazuma

3:41 p.m.

everyone else is good by me

And makes m2h top wagon and puts it between them even when i asked him to

all three of them just kinda were like “ok exc me”

Ig that last logic is flawed too

3:42 p.m.

Sigh

so now think, they aren’t all town

Ziel (Nge's sis)

I would be hopeless

Yeah but

3:42 p.m.

What you said here

3:42 p.m.

Was like

3:42 p.m.

Hi im busy

3:42 p.m.

Im citizen

kazuma is too inconsistent

I hope i dont keep getting citizen

DrFresh

kazuma is too inconsistent

Indeed

agreed

But fresh

Citizen is actually the best role wtf

Who can kazuma be teamed with

Ig mason is better

If not code/icet/ziel

Ngekop

Who can kazuma be teamed with

m2h

Danger?! Icet!

Citizen is actually the best role wtf

Getting it 5 times in a row

3:43 p.m.

Isnt great

DrFresh

m2h

Fml

3:43 p.m.

Yep

3:43 p.m.

You’re right

Ngekop

Fml

i said they were paired and after m2h broke the pair

M2h+kaz is the only possible team

Ngekop

Getting it 5 times in a row

Better than rolling mafia

That doesnt include

3:43 p.m.

Ziel/icet/code

Ngekop

Eaves isnt with anyone but code imo

In what universe nge

Code

In what universe nge

Bc eaves went like crazy with you

I would bus her so hard if she said that to me as svs

Idt she has ever sketched that aggressiveness towards a townie reading them correctly

Like she genuinely hit an actual hurtful sore spot

which didn’t take long for m2h to leave the pair, once m2h got voted kaz tr m2h with all the other innactive… which leaves me code xia and nge as the only people kaz didn’t tr

I think eaves is likely just town

3:45 p.m.

Im down for a kazuma lynch if ziel flips town

3:45 p.m.

But ugh

Ngekop

Im down for a kazuma lynch if ziel flips town

Tbh yeah

3:45 p.m.

I am

Ngekop

Im down for a kazuma lynch if ziel flips town

My statement still stands

Ik

@Ngekop what are u reading in ziel?

Idkkkkk

cause honestly i can’t figure out a way to make a read on them

3:46 p.m.

specially since they simply don’t care about the game

Her reaction to the wagon is somewhat towny

3:46 p.m.

But

3:46 p.m.

I have seen townier from her and i still cant sr anyone harder enough to change

3:46 p.m.

That is my situation rn

3:47 p.m.

If ziel is town

3:47 p.m.

Then for me it’ll be either one maf in code/icet

3:47 p.m.

Or kaz+m2h

Ngekop

Then for me it’ll be either one maf in code/icet

Not both tho

Ngekop

Code/eaves Or one in ziel/kaz/icet

If 1 in ziel/kaz/icet wheres the other at

It can be anyone

3:49 p.m.

Once i have the mafia in there i rethink everything

Danger?! Icet!

Citizen is actually the best role wtf

Its is the worst

Ngekop

Im citizen

Ohhh

3:49 p.m.

Well

Nge ur a really logical player which is why i’m betting on the fact that ur inno right now (Bet is the key word) i’m not reading i’m betting on it, cause u bring more good

Ngekop

You’re right

How is he right

If I was mafia, I'd put in more effort

3:50 p.m.

Cause

DrFresh

Nge ur a really logical player which is why i’m betting on the fact that ur inno right now (Bet is the key word) i’m not reading i’m betting on it, cause u bring more good

I die before you need to solve me most of the time

Even if I'm busy

(Or game ends)

I won't let my partner donw

3:50 p.m.

ACTUALLY

3:50 p.m.

I'LL TRY

3:50 p.m.

BETTER

3:50 p.m.

THE NEXT GAMES

Ngekop

I die before you need to solve me most of the time

exactly why i have to just bet on it

I feel bad ;-;

Ziel

3:50 p.m.

Idc what you are you didnt let anyone down

DrFresh

which didn’t take long for m2h to leave the pair, once m2h got voted kaz tr m2h with all the other innactive… which leaves me code xia and nge as the only people kaz didn’t tr

I have only towned ice and ziel tho?? I haven’t said anything on anyone else

Ngekop

Idc what you are you didnt let anyone down

u sure?

If any sorry for pushing you into joining when you were busy irl

3:51 p.m.

Didnt know you were tho so clearly it wasnt the intention

how long left?

DrFresh

u sure?

She is busy af

DrFresh

how long left?

9min

9 minutes

3:51 p.m.

Ye

y’all fr executing ziel?

i ant to vote kaz now

Danger?! Icet!

i ant to vote kaz now

Dont

Code

Dont

have u seen kaz as scum?

my emotions have been appealed

i think what ur seeing about kaz is easy to fake

DrFresh

have u seen kaz as scum?

I've seen kaz as ne and I've had him rant at me about his own scum play

Code

Dont

Oh

I've given him advice in the past

3:52 p.m.

I believe kaz

Hm

Code

I've seen kaz as ne and I've had him rant at me about his own scum play

what did he rant about his scum play?

Code

I've seen kaz as ne and I've had him rant at me about his own scum play

Vote m2

@DrFresh code’s defense on kaz seems unnatural

DrFresh

what did he rant about his scum play?

That he was panicking because he was the only one alive and he was under a lot of pressure

Ngekop

@DrFresh code’s defense on kaz seems unnatural

How

~~But i believe not in the way you would think~~

@Ziel (Nge's sis) vote m2 if you wanna live

If Kaz is scum here I would be beyond disappointed in bim

Code

How

It’s weird…even with icet it had more solid meta to it and the proper confidence i would expect

I know he has way more potential than this

Ngekop

@DrFresh code’s defense on kaz seems unnatural

code’s progression is too perfect if they are mafia i’ll literally give them praise but then again i haven’t iso him, but it’s natural asf and he definitely is giving the narrative i’d imagined of him

Code

If Kaz is scum here I would be beyond disappointed in bim

Please switch

Ngekop

It’s weird…even with icet it had more solid meta to it and the proper confidence i would expect

Kaz wouldn't half ass a game as mafia

3:54 p.m.

His responses under pressure fell apart but his general macro has been consistent

3:54 p.m.

Esp consistent to his townplay

3:55 p.m.

He FOR SURE wouldn't just give up when sussed

so it ends at :00 ?

@Ziel (Nge's sis) you die in 5 mins. Vote m2

Yes fresh

DrFresh

code’s progression is too perfect if they are mafia i’ll literally give them praise but then again i haven’t iso him, but it’s natural asf and he definitely is giving the narrative i’d imagined of him

my narrative or kaz's?

urs

Ih

3:56 p.m.

They then

Code

They then

Funny bc

3:56 p.m.

He got it right 2 times

3:56 p.m.

And wrong 2 times

3:56 p.m.

In the same post

I've done that before tbf

3:57 p.m.

I would honestly go as far as to put Kaz in town core tbu

3:57 p.m.

tbh

That's how I feel at this specific moment

EoD in 2 min

Fine

3:58 p.m.

Let’s stay here ig

@Ziel (Nge's sis) choose life

Trust the system Kaz.

Sorry fr

3:58 p.m.

Sorry ziel

You’re getting a big fat I told you so tommorow

Oh no

@Code switch now please

Oh nvm

3:59 p.m.

Oh lol

3:59 p.m.

Yeah i knew code would switch

3:59 p.m.

@DrFresh

3:59 p.m.

UNVOTE

3:59 p.m.

SERIOUSLY

Worth the risk.

worth the risk.

Code

Worth the risk.

Ty

EoD

Day 2 Top

Lunexia pinned a message to this channel. 2024-03-19 3:32 p.m.

@Alive Line NE first

Cool

This was written before the death

4:00 p.m.

I'm feeling sus of Xia. She seems overly concerned with what people think of her in a way that is both frequent but also... doesn't really feel real? Both Fresh (who voted her) and Icet (twice, who didn't) were asked why they were pushing her. In Icet's case it was... one mention? I believe? https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1217911784309133472/1219361260316000257 She has also on multiple occasions swapped out her votes silently and her interactions with Icet in particular don't feel 100% genuine. Nor does she feel particularly genuine on any push she's joined, but maybe this is because she lacks clear reasoning/progression. Regarding the wagons: I am willing to 100% clear Kazuma and I don't yet sus Fresh. I think Eaves maybe isn't mafia but if she is I'm just never interacting with her again so idrc. I want to iso Nge, same with Icet though I still don't really sus him yet (need to read his meta), and part of me thinks m2h could just be playing an AtE game although it felt a little genuine so idk. A brief skim of Icet's iso feels like his macro is genuine and I do see genuine progression on his side.

Good thing icet died

Will talk later currently with police

And was citty

4:00 p.m.

Think we likely win off that

4:01 p.m.

tbh I read code/Icet as masons

M2H

Good thing icet died

Ywp

4:01 p.m.

Yep

Could have been an attempted mason shot

Who tf kills icet tho

4:01 p.m.

That’s the thing

4:01 p.m.

Yeah

4:01 p.m.

And a terrible one

4:01 p.m.

Icet had limited possible partners

4:02 p.m.

And those were townier than him

4:02 p.m.

(Code and fresh)

Yeah we basically win off of it

Icet literally couldnt have been mason with anyone else

M2H

Yeah we basically win off of it

Yes but then again

4:02 p.m.

The kill remains weird for that reason

I have to ask

4:03 p.m.

What was going on with your read on me yesterday

4:03 p.m.

idgi

4:03 p.m.

tbh

Idk

4:03 p.m.

Hi xiaysa

I don't really get fresh eod either

Code

I'm feeling sus of Xia. She seems overly concerned with what people think of her in a way that is both frequent but also... doesn't really feel real? Both Fresh (who voted her) and Icet (twice, who didn't) were asked why they were pushing her. In Icet's case it was... one mention? I believe? https://discord.com/channels/648663810772697089/1217911784309133472/1219361260316000257 She has also on multiple occasions swapped out her votes silently and her interactions with Icet in particular don't feel 100% genuine. Nor does she feel particularly genuine on any push she's joined, but maybe this is because she lacks clear reasoning/progression. Regarding the wagons: I am willing to 100% clear Kazuma and I don't yet sus Fresh. I think Eaves maybe isn't mafia but if she is I'm just never interacting with her again so idrc. I want to iso Nge, same with Icet though I still don't really sus him yet (need to read his meta), and part of me thinks m2h could just be playing an AtE game although it felt a little genuine so idk. A brief skim of Icet's iso feels like his macro is genuine and I do see genuine progression on his side.

Code writing all this is weird

I tr fresh and code independently

Especially when they couldve easily died

Ngekop

Code writing all this is weird

No it isn't I've done it in many games

4:03 p.m.

Just not recently

Code

No it isn't I've done it in many games

You didnt when i hosted

but together that eod is :

You did when you were maf and i mentored you

I have in other games though

Sure

First 3-4 at least

(As in i believe it)

Never as mafia

i think what i find weird is that they could’ve killed me and easily framed m2h

I honestly think

Read the post rather than me

4:04 p.m.

Read me another time

i can't really say too much as of now about who i think would be more likely maf/town, but i'll at least just say what my gut tells me so far so with that said... kaz -> i think he'd possibly more likely be town, as there have been comments on how he wouldn't half-ass a game as scum etc. but at the same time he could potentially act as if he's half-assing the game to make people less sus of him, but for now i'd put kaz as a tr but maybe a bit sus icet -> i feel more 50/50 on icet, a bit hard for me to tell honestly so i got no clue really, i just feel really unsure about him as of now. he does seem maybe a bit more on the towny side for now i'd say tho, but would still put him as a bit sus m2h -> feel rather unsure about him as well, very pushy and motivated intro altho it eventually calmed down. i dunno how many games he has played before, but i don't see why anyone would be that pushy and motivated that early on for a mason reveal d2 due to just simply d1 nerves so i do find him maybe a bit more sus, but once again, hard to tell for sure eaves -> hasn't really contributed much at all, and overall just seems sorta on edge and ofc very strongly "idc" kinda attitude, so hard to really clear them as a town so would say they'd be more sus than these others as of now at least i'd say

Masons claim here helps with solving tbh

just to share my thoughts rq

Yep

I still like masons claim ngl

Xiaysa

i can't really say too much as of now about who i think would be more likely maf/town, but i'll at least just say what my gut tells me so far so with that said... kaz -> i think he'd possibly more likely be town, as there have been comments on how he wouldn't half-ass a game as scum etc. but at the same time he could potentially act as if he's half-assing the game to make people less sus of him, but for now i'd put kaz as a tr but maybe a bit sus icet -> i feel more 50/50 on icet, a bit hard for me to tell honestly so i got no clue really, i just feel really unsure about him as of now. he does seem maybe a bit more on the towny side for now i'd say tho, but would still put him as a bit sus m2h -> feel rather unsure about him as well, very pushy and motivated intro altho it eventually calmed down. i dunno how many games he has played before, but i don't see why anyone would be that pushy and motivated that early on for a mason reveal d2 due to just simply d1 nerves so i do find him maybe a bit more sus, but once again, hard to tell for sure eaves -> hasn't really contributed much at all, and overall just seems sorta on edge and ofc very strongly "idc" kinda attitude, so hard to really clear them as a town so would say they'd be more sus than these others as of now at least i'd say

icet is dead

yeah i wrote it before, i've been busy so i just saw LMAO

4:05 p.m.

my bad

The weird thing is

4:05 p.m.

Code or fresh should be dead

4:05 p.m.

Or at least me

4:05 p.m.

Not icet

true

In my gut tbh

i agree

code/fresh s/s

4:06 p.m.

I don't wanna pursue that rn but

icet is not a smart kill for mafia

Having a hard time seeing anything else

M2H

Having a hard time seeing anything else

There is no universe in which I kill an easy lynch

M2H

code/fresh s/s

If one is so is the other but both scum is hard to see

You can't possibly believe that when I didn't lynch ziel yesterday and towned kaz and icet

M2H

code/fresh s/s

no disrespect but that’s a dumb read

I think both are town

I should be the towniest here along with kaz rn

I mean it's in my gut

4:07 p.m.

I'm not pushing it

4:07 p.m.

But ok yeah call me dumb lol

i think both code and fresh are town as well

Code

I should be the towniest here along with kaz rn

M2H+eaves is where i landed last night

Ngekop

M2H+eaves is where i landed last night

I'm down for an m2h lynch

4:08 p.m.

Esp after that last comment

,

If eaves is mafia she lost all my respect

The cosmic power of the rng literally preserved my no mislynch streak from you people

4:08 p.m.

And you still can't see reason

Lol

M2H

The cosmic power of the rng literally preserved my no mislynch streak from you people

The cosmic power of me and nge teaming up will end it

eaves is playing the other game which is confusing

DrFresh

eaves is playing the other game which is confusing

You cant say that out loud btw

Code

The cosmic power of me and nge teaming up will end it

You just tmi'd me town

It’s angleshooting

M2H

You just tmi'd me town

1v1 me

that’s not angle shooting

True

4:09 p.m.

Nvm mb but

4:09 p.m.

You still cant talk about ongoing games

that’s just pointing out that she is actively wanting to play

In any sense

a game

eaves playing a game?????

Stop

4:10 p.m.

It’s ongoing

4:10 p.m.

You cant

Code

1v1 me

I mean how are you ending my no mislynch streak unless you know I'm town here?

Talk about it

I think that really

M2H

I mean how are you ending my no mislynch streak unless you know I'm town here?

I don't know you're town but me and mge have more power than you

4:10 p.m.

1v1 me

You just don't even think I'm maf

Prove it

,

1v1 me

I literally said

Now who's not chasing their scum pick?

you/fresh is a gut feel that I DONT want to pursue

I think it’s obv by now code and kaz are masons

I know it's dumb

Nge kill this guy pls

But it's what I feel lol

When I say gut you say wishy washy/no excuse

And fresh always kills code and lynches m2h if he is maf imo

You have 0 progression on me

4:11 p.m.

None at all

4:12 p.m.

I was hard tc yesterday and now I'm gut scum

Xiaysa is town

btw im posting this for visions purposes: M2H Ngekop code kazuma DrFresh eaves those are the people left… is there a world kazuma isn’t mafia here?

Code your whole thing on me is like 90% you just don't like me tbh

That isn't true

4:12 p.m.

I don't dislike you

4:12 p.m.

I actually like you

Xiaysa

i can't really say too much as of now about who i think would be more likely maf/town, but i'll at least just say what my gut tells me so far so with that said... kaz -> i think he'd possibly more likely be town, as there have been comments on how he wouldn't half-ass a game as scum etc. but at the same time he could potentially act as if he's half-assing the game to make people less sus of him, but for now i'd put kaz as a tr but maybe a bit sus icet -> i feel more 50/50 on icet, a bit hard for me to tell honestly so i got no clue really, i just feel really unsure about him as of now. he does seem maybe a bit more on the towny side for now i'd say tho, but would still put him as a bit sus m2h -> feel rather unsure about him as well, very pushy and motivated intro altho it eventually calmed down. i dunno how many games he has played before, but i don't see why anyone would be that pushy and motivated that early on for a mason reveal d2 due to just simply d1 nerves so i do find him maybe a bit more sus, but once again, hard to tell for sure eaves -> hasn't really contributed much at all, and overall just seems sorta on edge and ofc very strongly "idc" kinda attitude, so hard to really clear them as a town so would say they'd be more sus than these others as of now at least i'd say

If she is smart and bold enough to include his kill in this and pretend to not see it

4:12 p.m.

She is smart enough to NOT kill icet

@Ngekop can we lynch m2h please

I mean

DrFresh

btw im posting this for visions purposes: M2H Ngekop code kazuma DrFresh eaves those are the people left… is there a world kazuma isn’t mafia here?

Where’s xiaysa

DrFresh

btw im posting this for visions purposes: M2H Ngekop code kazuma DrFresh eaves those are the people left… is there a world kazuma isn’t mafia here?

i forgot xia

Ngekop

Where’s xiaysa

idk she is like ghost to me

Ngekop

If she is smart and bold enough to include his kill in this and pretend to not see it

^^

Code

@Ngekop can we lynch m2h please

Im not hammering early nmw

oh no

DrFresh

btw im posting this for visions purposes: M2H Ngekop code kazuma DrFresh eaves those are the people left… is there a world kazuma isn’t mafia here?

Yes it's every world kaz is NOT MADIA

Ngekop

Im not hammering early nmw

Not asking you to

time to haunt fresh since i'm a ghost now

Just asking you to vote

Nge

4:13 p.m.

You said yesterday

Yes i did

I'm with Kaz only

Ik

4:13 p.m.

But i reconsidered

4:14 p.m.

On eaves

@Code if u want to call m2h mafia u gonna have to pair m2h

Ok

4:14 p.m.

We can vote eaves

DrFresh

@Code if u want to call m2h mafia u gonna have to pair m2h

m2h xia m2h eaves m

Im not rushing

That's fine imo

4:14 p.m.

I mean

Kaz is never mafia here in any world

I have to be self pressy when

xia could well be mafia to be honest, she has been low effort cruising

I'm getting pushed this hard lmao

Code

Kaz is never mafia here in any world

oh boi

I lynch myself before I lynch kaz

oh boi

Code

I lynch myself before I lynch kaz

Incredibly stupid thing to say

4:15 p.m.

ngl

M2H

Incredibly stupid thing to say

So is gut scumming me with no progression

M2H

Incredibly stupid thing to say

They’re masons

kaz is the easiest tmi read of all time

If i see it

4:15 p.m.

Mafia does

DrFresh

kaz is the easiest tmi read of all time

Even if this was what I was doing it still means he's town

I have xiaysa AND fresh above m2h/eaves

4:16 p.m.

And like by far

i literally have note list i look for when making social read on mafia, kazuma ticks the box for scum in too many, which is why i said to nge that if kaz is town in this world imma be so disappointed

4:16 p.m.

it’s insane

I promise you

4:17 p.m.

Kaz is not mafia

4:17 p.m.

Kill me if I'm wrong

Are you masons?

it’s too hard to believe that

Do you at least trust me

@Code

Because I know him better than anyone here

Just claim already

4:17 p.m.

It’s

Code

Do you at least trust me

i do trust u

And I'm hard town

Annoyingly obvious

Ngekop

Annoyingly obvious

If its obvious then you don't need me to

what does mason even do?

DrFresh

what does mason even do?

Private chat

I need you to so they can stop focusing on you and kaz

do both masons know each other?

Yes

yes

The only one focusing on me is M2h and barely at that

Lock two town and yeah

And they know each other as towns

I will never let Kaz die here nmw si

Ngekop

I need you to so they can stop focusing on you and kaz

code sussed kaz at some point

so

Code

The only one focusing on me is M2h and barely at that

I am like 90% just frustrated with you

DrFresh

code sussed kaz at some point

Yes it’s called distancing

DrFresh

code sussed kaz at some point

I did but then he selfed himself and I reconsidered his meta

M2H

I am like 90% just frustrated with you

You said it before I even pushed you today

Code

I did but then he selfed himself and I reconsidered his meta

Huh

And 10% can't read people when they misread me this bad

Ngekop

Huh

He self voted and I reconsidered my read

You have been

can’t masons just claim?

Yes but then nk tells nothing

passively pushing me all game

And if its obvious I shouldn't have ti

Code

Yes but then nk tells nothing

what nk?

The one where if I claim mason I die tn

who cares just die

4:20 p.m.

we get mafia today if masons claim

I'd rather not thanks

4:20 p.m.

We already know the mafia

Masons claiming makes the POE 3/5 players lol

It already is

4:20 p.m.

You, Eaves, Xua

I don't think that wins

4:21 p.m.

tbh

i think eaves is mason with someone

Not for you it doesn't

code is not mason

4:21 p.m.

i don’t see a mason pairing here

4:21 p.m.

unless eaves is mason

The fact that you can't read me town here makes it hard to believe your other two picks would be right

I'll tell you this, if it was me and eaves we'd have had that chat in private

sry!!

DrFresh

i think eaves is mason with someone

Let’s find out

M2H

The fact that you can't read me town here makes it hard to believe your other two picks would be right

I can't read you town bc you're not town

Code

I can't read you town bc you're not town

Code being confidently wrong the cinema

Explain your gut sus then

DrFresh

i think eaves is mason with someone

Who tf can be mason with eaves

4:22 p.m.

Everyone was ok with her lynch until i came in

Ngekop

Who tf can be mason with eaves

yeah nvm

Code

Explain your gut sus then

I just can't read people that misread me when I'm town as having anything but a bad agenda

it’s not possible

Everyone except fresh

4:23 p.m.

Ziel

4:23 p.m.

And eaves

M2H

I just can't read people that misread me when I'm town as having anything but a bad agenda

Explain your other one

Because on my home site I am obvtown every game

4:23 p.m.

It actually gimps me lmao

masons are code and xia

4:23 p.m.

that makes sense

The reason you're not obv town is because you're not town

4:23 p.m.

You being frustrated about not being read properly doesn't make me any more confident you are town

code has to 100% be mason cause m2h me nge basically hinted villager

Code

The reason you're not obv town is because you're not town

Repeating this makes YOU the worse player here.

eaves got sussed by everyone

M2H

Repeating this makes YOU the worse player here.

I'll laugh when you die

kazuma aswell

4:24 p.m.

it’s xia and code

Code

I'll laugh when you die

No you won't lmao.

I will

You will feel like the idiot you are choosing to be

4:24 p.m.

when I die

No I'll laugh

4:24 p.m.

Even if I'm wrong

M2H and eaves arent masons

i literally don’t see the problem with masons claiming specially since we get 100% more certain in exc mafia

Ngekop

M2H and eaves arent masons

M2H asked for masons to claim

Exactly

4:24 p.m.

Neither is mason

DrFresh

M2H asked for masons to claim

I've done similar as cop before

Is what im saying

4:25 p.m.

As in

But you're right tho

Independently

it’s xia and code 100%

4:25 p.m.

it’s the only logical answer

4:25 p.m.

xia and code have not read each other

Well that's a 4 group town right there then

Code entered pushing xia

Me, xia, nge, and kaz

4:25 p.m.

If you're right

Ngekop

Code entered pushing xia

o

4:25 p.m.

then wtf

Code and kazuma

i refuse

At worst the tc is me nge kaz either way

u actually think kaz is self voting as mason

DrFresh

u actually think kaz is self voting as mason

Yes

4:26 p.m.

He would do that

DrFresh

u actually think kaz is self voting as mason

Yes

4:27 p.m.

I saw him self vote as neighbourizer bro

Can confirm

remind me why i don’t like him

Looool

there is no way bro said he self votes as pr

4:27 p.m.

u got to be taking the piss

No he does

4:28 p.m.

I've seen it happen.

i believe it

4:29 p.m.

i’m just like “why do u ruin a game for?”

‍♂️

@Ngekop u right it can only be code and kaz

4:35 p.m.

if that’s the case i’m honestly disappointed

Can we vote eaves tho

i’m dead ass

4:36 p.m.

then again prs can be sus for no reason

4:37 p.m.

code really faked pressure on kaz

4:37 p.m.

boi ain’t no way

Anyways

4:37 p.m.

I will be back in like

4:37 p.m.

2h

4:38 p.m.

Just in case dont hammer eaves tho

4:38 p.m.

Let her claim

don’t hammer anyone

4:40 p.m.

let’s actually use our time this day

Indeed

DrFresh

code really faked pressure on kaz

Imo this is just a decent way to play as informed town esp in d1

5:08 p.m.

Why give mafia the room to pair you

5:08 p.m.

I would rather vote m2h than eaves 100% here

5:08 p.m.

Tbh

5:08 p.m.

That's not to say I don't want eaves

5:08 p.m.

I just think m2h is slippery and has worse game overall

code u already soft confirmed it, can’t u just hard confirm it so that i can actually play to my best

DrFresh

code u already soft confirmed it, can’t u just hard confirm it so that i can actually play to my best

If your best relies on me doing anything then you're not as good as I thought

Code

If your best relies on me doing anything then you're not as good as I thought

ok good for u, i say that because i don’t focus on multiple players

5:10 p.m.

and prs play like mafia which is common knowledge

5:10 p.m.

everyone knows this

Just don't focus on kaz and this won't be a problem

actually i’m not even going to be rude

5:10 p.m.

i had to delete what i had on my brain for a second

5:11 p.m.

but think @Code

I hope you know I'm not trying to be a dick to you, I'm genuinely not

5:11 p.m.

Like I'm sorry if it comes off that way

5:11 p.m.

My point is you say you don't focus on multiple players, so I'm saying don't focus on kaz

Code

I hope you know I'm not trying to be a dick to you, I'm genuinely not

no i’m the one that’s not trying to be a dick right now cause i’m my brain i’m like “is this guy stubborn or just stupid, cause if he wants to get someone voted out the easiest way is for him to reveal” like u revealing doesn’t benefit mafia AT ALL

5:12 p.m.

so why are u skeptical?

DrFresh

no i’m the one that’s not trying to be a dick right now cause i’m my brain i’m like “is this guy stubborn or just stupid, cause if he wants to get someone voted out the easiest way is for him to reveal” like u revealing doesn’t benefit mafia AT ALL

They

ok they

If I'm so obviously mason then you (you being everyone) shouldn't need me to claim

idc if ur mason

5:13 p.m.

i care about ur partner

5:13 p.m.

cause prs play scummy

5:13 p.m.

good thing ur not

Well it sure af isn't xia

but whoever ur partner is definitely is

5:13 p.m.

ok

No disrespect to her but if Xia was my partner I'd hope I'd coach them into doing a better job than they have

5:14 p.m.

Not that they're bad, just that I could make them better

ok

Can I ask though

5:15 p.m.

Why did you flash vote M2h last night?

cause i didn’t think ziel was mafia in any world

5:15 p.m.

i have tr’s

5:15 p.m.

i’m just not saying them

DrFresh

i’m talking about ziel eaves kazuma

.

DrFresh

@Ngekop can we stack on ziel of icet ?

.

Code

.

u know the context of that message?

Code

.

that’s to say if kazuma would defend her inno reads

5:16 p.m.

see*

5:16 p.m.

i told u i’m calculated

DrFresh

that’s to say if kazuma would defend her inno reads

But Kaz wasn't in the thread at that point

Code

But Kaz wasn't in the thread at that point

but kaz chose them as inno reads

5:18 p.m.

which is why i wanted one of them stacked

What did you make of it when kaz DID defend them

it doesn’t matter if kaz was there or not

Code

What did you make of it when kaz DID defend them

kaz felt like he had tmi i don’t like the way he was defending most people would tend to question or think but he just didn’t do anything he just straight up convinced himself that they 100% were town

5:19 p.m.

which still confuses me

Ok

i never scum read ziel

Ngl I really hope eaves doesn't flip scum here

5:20 p.m.

Bc if she does that means her whole thing was AtE and that... would be unethical imo

tbh the other game she was scum and she just straight up didn’t try

DrFresh

tbh the other game she was scum and she just straight up didn’t try

Seen her as scum and same

5:20 p.m.

She also just hasn't tried here though

5:20 p.m.

Came in to say she's not mafia

5:20 p.m.

Had a go at me

5:20 p.m.

Left

5:20 p.m.

Had a go at me again

5:20 p.m.

Left

i dislike that aswell code

0 game related behaviour

i can’t respect it

I have no idea where it came from

@Code u can definitely pair up players here

5:22 p.m.

m2h / xia is a fair pairing

5:22 p.m.

eaves being paired idk

DrFresh

@Code u can definitely pair up players here

Eaves can be paired with basically anyone other than me M2h could be paired with xia or eaves Kaz and Nge are irrelevant but if Nge is paired it is likely with Xia or (reaching) m2h

eaves is the best explanation for a icet kill

You anyone other than xia or kaz

which means a scum might’ve chosen alone

5:23 p.m.

would 2 scums come to that decision together?

Depends on who they are

5:23 p.m.

Eaves maybe but I imagine she'd have read the chat and at least lurked I hope

nge could easily be paired with m2h tbh

So I'd hope she's not a dumb fuck enough to kill Icet

5:24 p.m.

But if she hasn't read then yes

5:24 p.m.

Nge could if for no other reason than to say he wouldn't... he's been quite experimental lately

5:24 p.m.

I don't believe it's a move m2h would make but that doesn't offset my other suspicions

5:25 p.m.

Xia is new, she could do anything

xia’s gameplay doesn’t let me read her

I was gonna say look into icet's susses but that was what, xia and kaz?

cause it’s just “idk what to do”

Kaz never kills Icet when you're here

5:27 p.m.

Xia should kill me but idk what her skill is

u think m2h isn’t killing me u ?

Ideally he does but I don't know how he thinks

but then again abstaining from killing someone that voted him isn’t bad

Maybe he thinks I'm inconsistent enough to be ignored / influenced back to him

5:28 p.m.

Or his partner talked him down

5:28 p.m.

For example if Kaz was mafia maybe he doesn't because I'm the only one on Kaz's side

it’s 2v5… we got 1 mislynch

If eaves isn't the MOST LIKELY mafia I don't want to kill her

5:29 p.m.

For the reason you state

at 2v3 i don’t see it being hard

Problem is this game has so many easy kills

5:30 p.m.

If I was mafia here I kill nge or m2h and frame icet

i think the kill makes me want to look into xia

Icet was not one of those easy kills

DrFresh

i think the kill makes me want to look into xia

Do it

i don’t think it’s a frame

No icet is a dumb kill for a frame

5:31 p.m.

Kill anyone else

@Code xia is scum

5:34 p.m.

i think i just caught xia on a lie

5:35 p.m.

could i have caught a slip?

5:35 p.m.

code tell me when ur here so i can explain

5:35 p.m.

@ me

@DrFresh

actually if can definitely be explained… but i was going to say that in her paragraph she mentioned m2h pushing for a d2 mason claim, in which she then said she wrote the paragraph before day started

5:40 p.m.

but now that i check m2h messages he did push during d1 for the d2 mason claim

5:40 p.m.

which makes what i was about to say invalid

5:41 p.m.

but then again how much backreading did xia actually do

DrFresh

m2h / xia is a fair pairing

Why xia voting m2h until one minute before eod

5:41 p.m.

Xia voted when m2h was becoming top wagon vs kaz

Ngekop

Why xia voting m2h until one minute before eod

i told u im a low attention span i play with instincts

Xia/eaves and m2h/eaves are fair

5:41 p.m.

Not xia/m2h

DrFresh

i told u im a low attention span i play with instincts

Ok

5:41 p.m.

Good for you

5:41 p.m.

Now vote eaves pls

why

5:42 p.m.

explain

Bc m2h and xia isnt the pair

5:43 p.m.

That just leaves eaves

what about urself?

Ok

Vote eaves or me

5:43 p.m.

Maf in us 2, right?

this guy stop being nonchalant

So what are the choices here

just show some emotions

xia/nge xia/Eaves eaves/nge eaves/m2h m2h/nge?

@Code eaves disappointment might end up happening mate…

5:45 p.m.

it’s like i said… 1 mafia + eaves explains the kill to me

Code

xia/nge xia/Eaves eaves/nge eaves/m2h m2h/nge?

Yes

DrFresh

@Code eaves disappointment might end up happening mate…

how much do you think there's a chance of nge mafia here?

5:45 p.m.

if lower than 50 we should vote eaves

lower than 50 for sure

eaves it is then

Eaves and i are in each

m2h has the least number of pairings on that list

5:46 p.m.

Eaves 3 Nge 3 M2h 2

5:46 p.m.

even xia 2

5:46 p.m.

Forgot she existed for a sec

Can you pls

5:46 p.m.

Not call her xia

Why not

It’s giving me like cringe

5:47 p.m.

Bc there was another player

5:47 p.m.

Called xia in here

Sorry but I have no desire to type out her weirdass full name

That was…a complete mess

dayum should i hammer!

If it was spelled a normally way sure

DrFresh

dayum should i hammer!

I think so but nge would say no

No

5:47 p.m.

^^

I always hammer d2

Wait for her to at least talk

5:48 p.m.

She isnt mason but you lose nothing

What if she was though

ok i won’t hammer

5:48 p.m.

tbh i rather use my time

Code

What if she was though

Then i wouldnt believe it

5:51 p.m.

But i would ask her to out her partner

5:51 p.m.

If they are unccd

5:52 p.m.

We have two clears and time to rethink everything from there

I think I'm probably ready to tl fresh a bit

tl?

5:53 p.m.

btw ik what tl means

5:53 p.m.

i’m wondering what was i before?

DrFresh

i’m wondering what was i before?

Unread

@Lunexia eod

Wat

Ik

NE games and trying not to speed hammer...

6:07 p.m.

Day 3 Top

Lunexia pinned a message to this channel. 2024-03-20 4:12 p.m.

@Alive Line NE

4:13 p.m.

hi

Well that destroyed what I had planned

4:14 p.m.

I was convinced Xia and Kaz were masons

that mf

@DrFresh do you think there's any chance Xia kills Nge here

4:15 p.m.

bc i think no

4:15 p.m.

which leaves you and m2h

who does nge hint as mason?

Doesn't matter

4:16 p.m.

Other mason just claims

actually yeah… there is no point in hiding mason claim at this point

4:17 p.m.

since both masons aren’t alive

Yeah

@Xiaysa are you mason?

And if they don't claim here

4:17 p.m.

And get cc'd

yes, i am

i figured

We act get no value from it

@Xiaysa that makes u confirmed town unless someone counter claims you

yeah

@Code i’m sorry but i’m inclined to push kaz

and i trust you to be town as well for sure

it’s only logical

4:19 p.m.

m2h pushed eaves

yeah i'd agree to that

we got m2h me kaz and code with xia as mason

4:20 p.m.

if kaz isn’t scum here like i said…

I mean

4:20 p.m.

I think I should also be pretty clear off the Icet kill tbh

Xia is the last masob

DrFresh

@Code i’m sorry but i’m inclined to push kaz

No

4:21 p.m.

Kaz never kills Icet over you

ok

4:21 p.m.

but who tf makes that kill

You do

it's a super weird kill from me tf

You're the only one here I cannot town core

Hi

4:22 p.m.

Yall hammered yesterday before I woke up

Kaz is for sure town, Xia is confirmed, and Fresh is the only other possible option but has more going for him than you

4:23 p.m.

Nge was going to lynch you today and he has more push power than I do, hence why you don't kill me there

4:23 p.m.

Even though I was soft confirmed mason

DrFresh

we got m2h me kaz and code with xia as mason

M2h must go

Plus by killing me you risk harder sus on you seeing as I've been fighting you all game

there is no way we still sus m2h

At end of the day, code/Icet/me was the pool that was going around for a vote the day before Icet died.

DrFresh

there is no way we still sus m2h

Kaz never flips scum here

4:24 p.m.

So unless you want to be the vote?

Why the fuck would I kill Icet when that just makes me get killed faster.

M2H

Why the fuck would I kill Icet when that just makes me get killed faster.

So you could say this? Idk I'm not in maf chat

Code

So unless you want to be the vote?

stop meta reading, meta reading like u do is shit trust me

DrFresh

stop meta reading, meta reading like u do is shit trust me

Didn't ask you

4:25 p.m.

Kaz

4:25 p.m.

Is

4:25 p.m.

Not

4:25 p.m.

Mafia

Code

So you could say this? Idk I'm not in maf chat

Code if you're town you're an idiot here I'm ngl.

4:26 p.m.

Nge was not gonna push me today

M2H

Code if you're town you're an idiot here I'm ngl.

Clearly better than you if you flip town

4:26 p.m.

*mafia

I'm not gonna flip mafia what then LOL

DrFresh

m2h pushed eaves

I pushed her day one tbf

Cross that bridge if we come to it

4:27 p.m.

Kaz has been hard town since day 1 why are we still having this discussion

uhm (Kazuma)

I pushed her day one tbf

both of u did

Code

Cross that bridge if we come to it

You want me to be mafia so badly.

Quit your whining

Why is Kaz hard town?

4:27 p.m.

I only went along with that because

4:28 p.m.

I thought you were masons.

He towned icet and ziel, he pushed eaves, he has a cleaner record than any of us

4:28 p.m.

I know him better than everyone in this game combined

4:28 p.m.

I know how he thinks

4:29 p.m.

@Xiaysa there's no way Nge didn't leave you with a legacy so tell us what his plan was today

yeah will do

Okay

so, fresh is town guaranteed, m2h is also most likely town

ok let’s calculate mislinches: worst case scenario: code is mafia (BIG DOUBT almost impossible) ne61 today: exc kaz/m2h kill: code/xia/me (2v1) if we are all in agreement that it’s either m2h or kaz i don’t see us losing

4:30 p.m.

anyways i’m going out now

DrFresh

ok let’s calculate mislinches: worst case scenario: code is mafia (BIG DOUBT almost impossible) ne61 today: exc kaz/m2h kill: code/xia/me (2v1) if we are all in agreement that it’s either m2h or kaz i don’t see us losing

Not in agreement

4:30 p.m.

Exe you/m2h

4:30 p.m.

The rest is fine

so i'd say we go for code today

Xiaysa

so i'd say we go for code today

You're insane right?

i find code more sus than kaz

4:31 p.m.

and so did nge

Xiaysa

so i'd say we go for code today

sorry but … no

alright, that's fine

Xiaysa

and so did nge

nge thinks code is sus?

I mean

Xia I know you're new but that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard and if Nge has genuinely said that then he has clearly drank meth infused bleach

I'm at code or fresh

nge is just reading bad then

4:32 p.m.

if code is mafia here than he is just the best mafia of all time

DrFresh

if code is mafia here than he is just the best mafia of all time

They

DrFresh

nge thinks code is sus?

it is possible he said that because he agrees with me that code feels somewhat off

sorry

4:32 p.m.

it’s instinct

DrFresh

it’s instinct

All g

Xiaysa

it is possible he said that because he agrees with me that code feels somewhat off

Because I'm having an exceptionally good game or an exceptionally bad game?

4:33 p.m.

Because I should be the towniest person here besides you

I mean

4:33 p.m.

All I needed was a little push

I pushed eaves IMMEDIATELY day 1, I swapped my vote off Ziel, I've pushed m2h (semi) consistently, and I saved icet when no one besides Kaz wanted to

If Nge was on this before death I'm game

You will never get the votes

You will never get the votes for me.

Wanna bet?

4:34 p.m.

@uhm (Kazuma) vote M2h please

Fuck yeah 1v1 me bitch

4:34 p.m.

I only backed off yesterday cuz I thought you were a mason

4:35 p.m.

Which explained your overconfident behavior

You got a lucky shot on nge, my plan was perfect to save the mason pair

Code -> Fresh.

M2h -> Fresh

Xiay mason, Kaz clear by town Code or pocketed by Kaz not likely maf.

Whatever way you shake it Kaz ends up town

Xiaysa

so i'd say we go for code today

?

Code

I pushed eaves IMMEDIATELY day 1, I swapped my vote off Ziel, I've pushed m2h (semi) consistently, and I saved icet when no one besides Kaz wanted to

@Xiaysa please go back and read my record

Code

@uhm (Kazuma) vote M2h please

Done

uhm (Kazuma)

Done

Ty

4:37 p.m.

Also I had every opportunity to hard claim mason and never took it

4:37 p.m.

That should be a point in my favour

Code

Also I had every opportunity to hard claim mason and never took it

Hell no??

i'm willing to follow nge's legacy, which was that fresh is town, m2h most likely town and to lynch code and kaz b2b

M2h and Nge were pressuring me into it

4:37 p.m.

Nge thought I was SO hard town he was using me as cover

it is up to you to make use of that info as you wish

Xiaysa

i'm willing to follow nge's legacy, which was that fresh is town, m2h most likely town and to lynch code and kaz b2b

Nge is having a fucking terrible game Jesus Christmas

4:38 p.m.

christ

Why not be cover then?

I was cover

4:38 p.m.

I could have also denied it

4:38 p.m.

And I didnt

4:38 p.m.

I let you think I was mason

Why not hard claim mason I mean

Because then I could be cc'd and that makes me sus

Well in a world where I'm scum

4:38 p.m.

I CLEARLY didn't think you were a mason

4:39 p.m.

Because I'm never shooting in the city pool wtf

LOL not what you said two seconds ago

4:39 p.m.

Whatever

4:39 p.m.

Anyway

Code

LOL not what you said two seconds ago

Quote it

@M2H Are we both just dumb as fuck? What if Fresh is playing us both

M2H

I only backed off yesterday cuz I thought you were a mason

.

Code

.

Ok lemme spell this out for you.

@DrFresh Hammer is yours.

If I were mafia and thought you were a mason

4:40 p.m.

You would be dead

I already laid out the reasons why you don't kill me

If you think I'm mafia and not shooting a mason claim or at least a mason read

@Xiaysa Unvote. You’re throwing

I would have shot it

Even if you didn't think I was mason, fine, fair, but there are plenty of reasons you don't kill me

Code

Even if you didn't think I was mason, fine, fair, but there are plenty of reasons you don't kill me

No because shooting a non-mason is stupid

uhm (Kazuma)

@Xiaysa Unvote. You’re throwing

i promised nge to follow his legacy if he died

4:41 p.m.

so that is what i'm simply doing

M2H

No because shooting a non-mason is stupid

Doesn't matter if you don't think I'm mason

The only person that could make that kill without gamethrowing

4:41 p.m.

Is you or maybe kaz

4:42 p.m.

And I'm gonna believe the town read on him

i’m sorry but i’m not hammering code

Xiaysa

i promised nge to follow his legacy if he died

Nge was wrong about both Ziel and icet already. Are you sure that’s what you wanna do?

Xiaysa

i promised nge to follow his legacy if he died

His legacy is 90% town lynches and 1 good shot on eaves. Mine is eaves from day 1 and saving the person he wanted to mislynch. Ask yourself who the better player is this game?

DrFresh

i’m sorry but i’m not hammering code

that's fine

DrFresh

i’m sorry but i’m not hammering code

Only other option is m2h

my vote order is kaz than m2h

I never vote Kaz here

4:42 p.m.

I'd rather you just kill me instead

I'm not voting Kaz either

@M2H i’m ngl that was sus

4:43 p.m.

why don’t u want kaz

DrFresh

@M2H i’m ngl that was sus

Game is solved nmw please vote

Because I am gonna believe Code is either right or is scum and pocketed Kaz

M2H

Because I am gonna believe Code is either right or is scum and pocketed Kaz

^

4:44 p.m.

Both points are true in either universe

So xiay dies tonight and whoever is in with code at f3 loses

Code

Game is solved nmw please vote

what do y mean?

DrFresh

what do y mean?

If it isn't M2h then it's you

4:44 p.m.

So we lynch him today, you tomorrow

No we vote you today, fresh tomorrow.

M2H

No we vote you today, fresh tomorrow.

Give it up, I clearly win this 1v1

4:45 p.m.

Fresh never votes me here

Code

Give it up, I clearly win this 1v1

I don't lose 1v1s when I'm town

And you're second in his poe

M2H

I don't lose 1v1s when I'm town

You're not town

I just need to convince him

Code

You're not town

Yes I am you angry fuck

Angry? Lol

i’m not going for either hammers

You're the one throwing insults here

just saying

DrFresh

i’m not going for either hammers

Well you aren't getting any others

we gonna be stuck

@M2H If fresh doesn't vote are you down to just kill him instead

@Xiaysa what is nge’s opinion on kaz?

We both want him 2nd anyway so why not just move it up one

DrFresh

@Xiaysa what is nge’s opinion on kaz?

he said to lynch code and kaz b2b

4:46 p.m.

so i'm willing to vote kaz today as well

Nge loses you the game every time

4:47 p.m.

Xia don't that's so fucking dumb

4:47 p.m.

Did you read what I posted?

Xiaysa

he said to lynch code and kaz b2b

i can’t physically go for either code or m2h so if u go kaz i’ll go kaz but if kaz flips town i’m not going code just saying

I have a way better cred rate this game than nge has

4:48 p.m.

Killing Kaz is like

4:48 p.m.

Unforgivable

4:48 p.m.

I wouldn't usually say this but listening to nge over me in this instance is also really really bad

Code

@M2H If fresh doesn't vote are you down to just kill him instead

I mean as a last resort yeah.

code idk how u doing ur kaz meta reads but u shouldn’t be this confident over a meta read where u never even seen kaz as maf

M2H

I mean as a last resort yeah.

Kaz would join us

it just doesn’t make sense no disrespect

We would have a hammer in like 5 minutes

I still think its you and I actually do lose to you at f3

4:49 p.m.

So id rather not

DrFresh

code idk how u doing ur kaz meta reads but u shouldn’t be this confident over a meta read where u never even seen kaz as maf

You're right but if I'm wrong then I need this experience

But better than me getting voted sure

M2H

So id rather not

You lose to me no matter what if Fresh isn't mafia

Code

You lose to me no matter what if Fresh isn't mafia

No I don't lol

Yes you do

Because I don't lose

Your only real hope is a 50/50 flip goes your way again

My strength in mafia comes from the fact that I have a

4:50 p.m.

Extremely resilient town game, never die, and never getislynched.

You keep bringing that up like its anything to be proud of, I also have an unbroken no mislynch record

can y’all just read each other ffs

It is though

DrFresh

can y’all just read each other ffs

The only way we read each other is if we read you mafia, do you want that?

i thought we for sure had a clear winning poe that kaz is mafia

You have 2 choices today

but y’all dumbasses can’t eead each other for shit

You or m2h

you got 2 stubborn ass people trying to exc each other when kaz would’ve been the best exc for either of use if either of u were mafia

M2h is in your poe so why do you care if he dies today or tomorrow?

4:52 p.m.

Either way it's your poe down to 1

In champs I got poe'd every round and still survived to end game.

With the added benefit of winning before that point

yeah cause i read everyone as town

I am not the person to 1v1 without a PR claim in the pocket

4:52 p.m.

Genuinely

i’d go m2h after kaz because i think code is more town than m2h

Please just

4:52 p.m.

Trust me on kaz

DrFresh

i’d go m2h after kaz because i think code is more town than m2h

Think about the Nge kill

but i do think y’all are both genuinely way too town

Even Nge. Wrong as he was. Didn't want Kaz until AFTER me

4:53 p.m.

So Kaz should never be first

It's genuinely gamethrowing from anybody that didn't know the masons claim was BS

M2H

Think about the Nge kill

what about it? code didn’t die because kaz knows code isn’t mason

4:53 p.m.

it’s just logic

How could Kaz know I'm not mason

cause u honeyed at kaz being mason and no one else could’ve been ur partner

DrFresh

what about it? code didn’t die because kaz knows code isn’t mason

This is possible but your poe would be code/Kaz imo

4:54 p.m.

Code and Kaz could both make that kill

Yeah but I would never out my partner like that as mason

It would be so risky coming from me

M2H

This is possible but your poe would be code/Kaz imo

nah code is too inno

Kaz knows that bc he's played with me before

it has nothing to the with predicting my poe ik how i do it

4:54 p.m.

ur not 100% town, code is defo town

DrFresh

nah code is too inno

It's you or him g

Code

Even Nge. Wrong as he was. Didn't want Kaz until AFTER me

@DrFresh

M2H

It's you or him g

Them

Woops

4:55 p.m.

But Nge honestly also

M2H

It's you or him g

ur just dumb then no disrespect

Nge had such a bad game ngl

4:55 p.m.

Sorry nge if you're reading this but it's true

i played 100’s of mountainous styled game, y’all are over complicating it and it’s annoying me

TR'd me much harder than he let on in thread. This was obvious.

@M2H Question for you

4:56 p.m.

Do you think I am MORE likely to be mafia than Fresh is

Code

Do you think I am MORE likely to be mafia than Fresh is

After the nk, yes. Before the nk, no.

4:57 p.m.

But not by that much

4:57 p.m.

It's mostly the nk pulling me

I never kill nge there when he was set to go on you by the way things were looking

4:57 p.m.

I would have killed Kaz or Fresh

4:57 p.m.

Kaz for cred

4:57 p.m.

Fresh for fear

Code

I never kill nge there when he was set to go on you by the way things were looking

Nge was not gonna let you kill me, he had me as a top TR. Read between the lines.

@M2H ur stupid eaves would’ve played if codes was mafia, u can tell code was disappointed

M2H

Nge was not gonna let you kill me, he had me as a top TR. Read between the lines.

You're basing that off what he COULD have done rather than forgetting if I was maf my night kill would have been based on what I THOUGHT would happen

4:58 p.m.

Applying YOUR logic to it doesn't work

DrFresh

@M2H ur stupid eaves would’ve played if codes was mafia, u can tell code was disappointed

I also would have gone at her in private, not public

Code

You're basing that off what he COULD have done rather than forgetting if I was maf my night kill would have been based on what I THOUGHT would happen

It was obvious. He explicitly said I was a top TR then did a fake push on me anyways.

It didn't seem fake to me and if it was "obvious" then I guess i am just dumb

5:00 p.m.

You've never seen me as mafia so you are forgiven for not knowing how I think, even if it isn't good thinking

5:00 p.m.

That said

5:00 p.m.

You've blatantly admitted to being unable to read people who "misread you" so why should we trust you now

@Xiaysa vote kaz, im telling u eventually one of the 2 will wake up to reality

5:01 p.m.

they both inno

5:01 p.m.

just being stubborn asf

Code

You've blatantly admitted to being unable to read people who "misread you" so why should we trust you now

You think I'm town and wrong, not mafia. Based on this

5:01 p.m.

You can't have both

@Xiaysa if you do that I'm throwing

Code

@Xiaysa if you do that I'm throwing

ur weird

and why are you threatening me, code?

I told you

5:01 p.m.

Me over Kaz any day of the week

Xiaysa

so i'm willing to vote kaz today as well

Nge has been wrong all game. Dont take this the wrong way but please think for yourself

code ur reasoning on kaz is weak

uhm (Kazuma)

Nge has been wrong all game. Dont take this the wrong way but please think for yourself

^^^^^

DrFresh

code ur reasoning on kaz is weak

At least I've given any. All you've said is he "ticks too many boxes"

i told u kaz is the most certain scum read i’ve made, and i said it if she is inno this is a fucking disappointment

Kaz NEVER EVER kills Icet

5:02 p.m.

EVER

@Xiaysa just go with me i have the most experience

@Xiaysa I have the best record in this game so far.

DrFresh

@Xiaysa just go with me i have the most experience

No you don't tf :

️

M2H

But better than me getting voted sure

Then do it

uhm (Kazuma)

Then do it

No

Experience doesn't trump game specific records as Nge has clearly demonstrated

Because I don't get voted here

5:03 p.m.

Or ever

DrFresh

i told u kaz is the most certain scum read i’ve made, and i said it if she is inno this is a fucking disappointment

Im a guy.

Code

Experience doesn't trump game specific records as Nge has clearly demonstrated

You have so much agenda in discrediting Nge. He's a good player so cut that out lmao.

M2H

You have so much agenda in discrediting Nge. He's a good player so cut that out lmao.

Look at his record this game

M2H

No you don't tf :

️

i do

I was better than him in every instance

Code

Look at his record this game

He got eaves

After I sussed her ON ENTRY

i have about 10k mafia games played @M2H

Nge is a better player OVERALL but I FAR outstrip him this game

i’ve played about 500-1000 mountainous styles games

5:06 p.m.

i coach on mountainous styled games in other serves

This game was tough.

All the more reason you should be crediting me

And you are discrediting dead town for agendaized reasons it's wild

Me being better than nge in a tough game

Nge was never gonna vote me ever

He trusted me so much he used me for cover

Easy to be "better" when you're maf

Code

@Xiaysa I have the best record in this game so far.

yeah no, i understand that by now, there's no need to repeat something multiple times with me but i do make my own thoughts, and anyone can make mistakes either way so i don't see a reason to let that be a reason for me to not follow my mason partner's legacy and i do have my own gut feelings as well, which did align with nge's last thoughts before the nk so i'm sorry, but don't hold it against me

5:07 p.m.

M2H

Easy to be "better" when you're maf

You would know

And then he called you scum in dead chat

Xiaysa

yeah no, i understand that by now, there's no need to repeat something multiple times with me but i do make my own thoughts, and anyone can make mistakes either way so i don't see a reason to let that be a reason for me to not follow my mason partner's legacy and i do have my own gut feelings as well, which did align with nge's last thoughts before the nk so i'm sorry, but don't hold it against me

Your partner's legacy is trash and you need to grow a backbone

M2H

And then he called you scum in dead chat

He also called Icet and Ziel scum, where did that get himM

5:08 p.m.

And you too

5:08 p.m.

But you only care about me

Code

He trusted me so much he used me for cover

Ok he used you for cover and died anyways, he called you scum in dead chat, and you are discrediting him after his death. Plz keep nges name out of your mouth.

Xiaysa

yeah no, i understand that by now, there's no need to repeat something multiple times with me but i do make my own thoughts, and anyone can make mistakes either way so i don't see a reason to let that be a reason for me to not follow my mason partner's legacy and i do have my own gut feelings as well, which did align with nge's last thoughts before the nk so i'm sorry, but don't hold it against me

i can go into detail for you later on why kaz is mafia and if i don’t convince you or m2h than fair enough unless code self votes or kaz votes code, code is not getting voted

M2H

Ok he used you for cover and died anyways, he called you scum in dead chat, and you are discrediting him after his death. Plz keep nges name out of your mouth.

Why are you defending someone with a record as bad as his

DrFresh

i can go into detail for you later on why kaz is mafia and if i don’t convince you or m2h than fair enough unless code self votes or kaz votes code, code is not getting voted

i've already voted kaz

Code

Why are you defending someone with a record as bad as his

I respect him way more than you as a player.

DrFresh

i can go into detail for you later on why kaz is mafia and if i don’t convince you or m2h than fair enough unless code self votes or kaz votes code, code is not getting voted

I will self vote before I let Kaz die

M2H

I respect him way more than you as a player.

OK and

5:09 p.m.

That just makes you biased, not right

Only player here that's as good as my home site tbh

Code

I will self vote before I let Kaz die

u wouldn’t be able to

Code

I will self vote before I let Kaz die

Then self vote

ur self vote wouldn’t do anything

M2H

Then self vote

You self vote

Code

You self vote

I don't self vote here because that hurts my town win rate.

M2H

I don't self vote here because that hurts my town win rate.

You aren't town. It has no impact

Code

You aren't town. It has no impact

How TF do you say shit like this but then try to swing the vote onto Fresh

5:11 p.m.

You act like you should have a lock scum read on me the way you talk to me but you dont

5:11 p.m.

You just blow like the eind

@M2H what is stopping u from voting kaz right now?

*wind

Because Fresh is my 2nd poe and he's also yours. The only way we break this deadlock without Fresh or Xia changing their votes is to both move him up one place

5:11 p.m.

He dies anyway if we're both wrong

DrFresh

@M2H what is stopping u from voting kaz right now?

Because it's not Kaz, it's code. Kaz is getting pocketed here. It's obvious.

It makes no difference

M2H

Because it's not Kaz, it's code. Kaz is getting pocketed here. It's obvious.

Even if this was true. It still makes Kaz town. @DrFresh

Code

It makes no difference

That is NOT the same line as you had last game.

M2H

That is NOT the same line as you had last game.

You keep comparing bad mental health code to rational code like those two things are supposed to be equivocal

M2H

Because it's not Kaz, it's code. Kaz is getting pocketed here. It's obvious.

code is literally fine with getting voted out… so let’s do this if i’m wrong i’ll allow myself to get voted the next day, is that fine?

5:13 p.m.

i’ll self vote aswell for u

DrFresh

code is literally fine with getting voted out… so let’s do this if i’m wrong i’ll allow myself to get voted the next day, is that fine?

Fine by me

5:13 p.m.

If you vote m2h

i’m not pathetic enough to lie about this btw

Anyone but kaz

DrFresh

code is literally fine with getting voted out… so let’s do this if i’m wrong i’ll allow myself to get voted the next day, is that fine?

No. I vote code over you. You are town.

5:13 p.m.

Kaz is town

5:13 p.m.

Xiay is town

omds ffs

I am town

M2H

No. I vote code over you. You are town.

He's not saying vote him lol

5:13 p.m.

Reread it

YALL ARE MISSING THE CLEAR SIGNS OF BOTH OF U BEING INNO

It is code

HOW ARE U BOTH NOT FUCKING SEEING IT

Vote code today, I'll vote Kaz tomorrow.

Is it my turn to say m2h is gonna feel like the idiot he is choosing to be if I flip

I promise

ur both fighting for u reads, that’s the clearest signs of town

STOP BEING STUBBORN

5:14 p.m.

ffs

5:14 p.m.

i’m telling u exc kaz and if it’s wrong let me take the exc tomorrow

5:14 p.m.

just fucking trust me

M2H

I promise

I thought you were supposed to be good at this game

DrFresh

i’m telling u exc kaz and if it’s wrong let me take the exc tomorrow

No because I still want m2h before you

DrFresh

i’m telling u exc kaz and if it’s wrong let me take the exc tomorrow

This loses. I want code. Not you/Kaz.

5:15 p.m.

Fresh just trust me here.

we losing this game im ngl

DrFresh

we losing this game im ngl

If we're losing then lose my way

If you want Kaz, I'll vote Kaz in f3 if I'm wrong.

5:15 p.m.

I'm not voting you though Fresh.

i can’t follow u code cause ur never voting kaz in any world

5:15 p.m.

it’s not ideal

I can't make the same promise but I can promise I won't hammer, how about that

and i can’t vote code cause ik he is town

DrFresh

and i can’t vote code cause ik he is town

T h e y

it’s the easiest read ever

5:16 p.m.

sorry

5:16 p.m.

they are obviously town

DrFresh

and i can’t vote code cause ik he is town

@Xiaysa flip back over to code

the stubborn was between u two should tell you enough

5:17 p.m.

please don’t

5:17 p.m.

code will flip town

DrFresh

code will flip town

Lay out a PROPER case tomorrow for why Kaz is mafia and I promise I will go into it with an open mind. That's the best I can do

I will vote Kaz over fresh though.

5:17 p.m.

Just not today.

5:17 p.m.

It gives us a chance to win

Code

Lay out a PROPER case tomorrow for why Kaz is mafia and I promise I will go into it with an open mind. That's the best I can do

code i told you i’m on ur fking side if kaz is town the exc u want will happen

I won't currently but I am open to hearing the case for it

Code at f3 with Kaz alive is just gg

DrFresh

code i told you i’m on ur fking side if kaz is town the exc u want will happen

If you can't agree to that it will end up with a 50/50 split between 2 people you believe are town

M2H

Because it's not Kaz, it's code. Kaz is getting pocketed here. It's obvious.

Im not an idiot yk

code m2h could easily hammer kaz right now

DrFresh

code m2h could easily hammer kaz right now

It isn't kaz

uhm (Kazuma)

Im not an idiot yk

You are hard pocketed though.

uhm (Kazuma)

Im not an idiot yk

If I'm wrong then I'm sorry but you kinda are

5:19 p.m.

With all the love in the world your maf game is not strong if this is it

i swear if kaz wins by playing like a noob mafia im a break my head

DrFresh

i swear if kaz wins by playing like a noob mafia im a break my head

I can promise I'll join you on that one

i’m actually dead serious this will be my dumbest loss

I will put my throat in a blender bc I'm the reason he got this far at all

we going to have to find a way to come into mutual agreement

5:21 p.m.

right now i’m kinda mad at nge’s read on code

5:21 p.m.

cause it’s kinda fucking this up

Nge is fucking right lmao

5:21 p.m.

Y'all just can't see it.

I can't even make a deal with you to kill m2h tomorrow because mafia, whoever it ends up being, just kills anyone other than me or Xia and wins

can i just say @Code why do u think nge was killed?

Otherwise I would

DrFresh

can i just say @Code why do u think nge was killed?

Correct read on M2h, and/or clear town

no

There are reasons I don't die there and I haven't read you but I imagine same

Code

Correct read on M2h, and/or clear town

Over a mason claim is idiotic.

Xia and Kaz never die there if town

his read on m2h does nothing once he is dead

M2H

Over a mason claim is idiotic.

Shut up

You have to know the mason claim is wrong to kill Nge

someone had to know he was mason to kill him or he had to sus the right person

It's literally gamethrowing to not kill mason claims.

i think i’m this case it’s both

Regardless of reads

Not true

M2H

You have to know the mason claim is wrong to kill Nge

EXACTLY

5:23 p.m.

2 masons alive at this stage is suicide

5:23 p.m.

for mafia

Because masons shrink the lynch pool. It's why the first two town deaths were fine.

that’s why i’m saying the only person who was able to know mason was kaz

5:24 p.m.

no one else

5:24 p.m.

or code

Kaz never kills me there, and probably doesn't kill Nge I never die there if you're mafia for reasons stated, and same true for if Kaz mafia. Fresh ??????

DrFresh

or code

How would I know

5:24 p.m.

I'm not mason

realistically speaking it’s bad to say it this way but only code and kaz fit the kill

The only people that could make that kill are Code and Kaz.

You've changed your fucking tune

5:24 p.m.

I never kill M2h there

5:25 p.m.

I kill you or Kaz

5:25 p.m.

Every time

5:25 p.m.

*nge

Code

How would I know

cause u know u urself weren’t mason… me and m2h were literally mad at no mason vlaim

I never kill nge

DrFresh

cause u know u urself weren’t mason… me and m2h were literally mad at no mason vlaim

Why would I believe nge was mason though

process of elimination

Because you aren't.

5:25 p.m.

Maybe how he interacted with your claim

5:25 p.m.

idk

I did PoE and came up with Kaz and Ziel which you would know if you bothered to read my opening

but i’m not saying ur mafia, im just letting u know that realistically speaking it should be between u and kaz just like xia was saying

Xia*

DrFresh

but i’m not saying ur mafia, im just letting u know that realistically speaking it should be between u and kaz just like xia was saying

It's not fucking me

5:26 p.m.

M2h fuck off

i’m telling you that realistically speaking if u want to play mechanically nge is right

I see you

Code

It's not fucking me

Who is this "It" creature and why are they not fucking you?

DrFresh

i’m telling you that realistically speaking if u want to play mechanically nge is right

How is nge mechanically right when he's been dumb all game

Sounds rude

if u want to play socially like me it’s between m2h and kaz

Then kill m2h???

no cause from experience i’m 1000% sure ur town

5:27 p.m.

u’d be hardcore embarrassing me if u were mafia here

Code

Then kill m2h???

I don't see how that is a response to this

@M2H i’ll quit mafia forever if code is mafia

I will also quit mafia forever if code is mafia

urself?

DrFresh

@M2H i’ll quit mafia forever if code is mafia

I mean.

Hell I'd fucking consider it if Kaz is mafia

Maybe you should start looking for a new hobby then.

M2H

Maybe you should start looking for a new hobby then.

maybe

‍♂️

5:28 p.m.

i’ll take the risk

5:28 p.m.

i don’t lie

You two are getting on my nerves. I'm going to bed before I let this game get like the last one

@M2H hammer

5:29 p.m.

do it

Whatever

5:29 p.m.

If it's wrong

5:30 p.m.

Follow me on code

5:30 p.m.

Ok?

i said i’ll take whatever action

5:30 p.m.

i’ll even self vote

@DrFresh you are getting SO much salt after this game if m2h is mafia and you don't kill him

idc

Code

@DrFresh you are getting SO much salt after this game if m2h is mafia and you don't kill him

cool

5:30 p.m.

EOD

5:31 p.m.

@Lunexia

???????

5:31 p.m.

Bros are speedrunning the game

Post Game

Lunexia pinned a message to this channel. 2024-03-20 5:43 p.m.

gg

Thanks for playing, hope you enjoyed

@Code it was just

5:44 p.m.

respect for your scum game

but gg

looooooooool

sparkleStare

i even said eod1

5:44 p.m.

i tr'd m2h and fresh and xiaysa harder than code which meant A LOT bc code was towny af

Ngekop

i tr'd m2h and fresh and xiaysa harder than code which meant A LOT bc code was towny af

you trd your mason partner?

5:45 p.m.

ur better

5:45 p.m.

fr fr

and what made me be unsure in kaz/code was code's hard tr

5:45 p.m.

on kaz

Lunexia

you trd your mason partner?

ik

5:45 p.m.

but i had to leave those seeds just in case

I have no words

bc no coding allowed

5:45 p.m.

town just crushed it tbh

5:45 p.m.

the icet kill tho

5:45 p.m.

idk wtf was that

i'll try to do better next game if i do play again sometime angelpray

5:46 p.m.

at least i'll try being a bit more prepared with playstyle etc

Boom

5:47 p.m.

M2H stay winning

watch you lose your next game

5:48 p.m.

Xiaysa

watch you lose your next game

Would be a first

5:48 p.m.

Unless I roll scum tbf

then you could celebrate your first loss

5:48 p.m.

it's still a first after all

finally

Ngekop

the icet kill tho

i was too towny

5:49 p.m.

@Ngekop i swear no one trusts my experience

stfu to you all non believers

DrFresh

@Ngekop i swear no one trusts my experience

doesn't surprise me ngl

5:50 p.m.

you annoyed me a bit at times SmugSip

5:50 p.m.

but i still wanted to trust you

Xiaysa

but i still wanted to trust you

ik but like my accuracy is very good

5:51 p.m.

every game i play

yeah nah i can tell

5:51 p.m.

you seem chill overall thi

i’m not very kind and i probably need to be more humble at times

yepppp

that’s my only problem which i’m working on

dw i can teach you

5:52 p.m.

my friends scold me for being too humble

when i saw m2h being stubborn i was like “yeah i’m right”

So here's what we learned here after I got timed out for bantering kaz

5:54 p.m.

I'm never interacting w/ Eaves again

5:54 p.m.

And I'm just not gonna read kaz from now on

@Code btw i’ve experienced what uve experienced before too many times, the times where it’s too hard to believe someone would play different… my first game in this server i got mafia correct d1 i tunnelled on sunny and then i was 100% sure eaves was mafia pushing her own day 1 until her best friend said eaves would never vote her own (edited)

5:56 p.m.

meta and outside the game stuff are fucked

So what am I supposed to do then

5:57 p.m.

Just never read anyone

5:57 p.m.

Bc I'm clearly not good at it

5:57 p.m.

@uhm (Kazuma) btw I'm like 90% sure you know it was /lh but if you didn't, it was

Code

Just never read anyone

no read what mafia would do, mafia are stiff they can’t fake progression, when someone is able to have all sorts of reads and comfortably make up all sorts of opinions, u know they have to be town

DrFresh

no read what mafia would do, mafia are stiff they can’t fake progression, when someone is able to have all sorts of reads and comfortably make up all sorts of opinions, u know they have to be town

you say that like its easy

5:58 p.m.

and i wasn't already trying to do that

5:58 p.m.

I know you're trying to help but I clearly just suck at all of this

eh dw, it's a learning experienc

Code

@uhm (Kazuma) btw I'm like 90% sure you know it was /lh but if you didn't, it was

Lh?

Xiaysa

eh dw, it's a learning experienc

I'd rather just talk to fresh tbh

alright mb

uhm (Kazuma)

Lh?

lighthearted

Code

And I'm just not gonna read kaz from now on

Lol

just roll mafia

5:59 p.m.